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Some of you might find this link to the Hugh Miles blog spot interesting (about filming otters:)

 

http://hughmiles9.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/bbc-filming-otters.html

 

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Yes I agree, it will be interesting to see.

 

As most of us know Hugh is a well respected wild life film maker who has a very good knowledge of the subjects he films.

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Happiness is Fish shaped (it used to be woman shaped but the wife is getting on a bit now)

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No, they were not aired on the show. The BBC always likes nature to be nice, warm and cuddly, so the plight of fish, fisheries and fishery owners doesn't come close :angry:

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Species caught in 2017 Common Ash, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, White Willow.

Species caught in 2016: Alder, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Crab Apple, Left Earlobe, Pedunculate Oak, Rock Whitebeam, Scots Pine, Smooth-leaved Elm, Swan, Wayfaring tree.

Species caught in 2015: Ash, Bird Cherry, Black-Headed Gull, Common Hazel, Common Whitebeam, Elder, Field Maple, Gorse, Puma, Sessile Oak, White Willow.

Species caught in 2014: Big Angry Man's Ear, Blackthorn, Common Ash, Common Whitebeam, Downy Birch, European Beech, European Holly, Hawthorn, Hazel, Scots Pine, Wych Elm.
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Species caught in 2011: Blackthorn, Crab Apple, Elder, Fir, Hawthorn, Horse Chestnut, Oak, Passing Dog, Rowan, Sycamore, Willow.
Species caught in 2010: Ash, Beech, Birch, Elder, Elm, Gorse, Mullberry, Oak, Poplar, Rowan, Sloe, Willow, Yew.

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I admire his effort but he never stood a chance.

 

If you can't even have a respected wildlife professional like Hugh Miles dare to suggest the wholesale re-introduction of otters into waterways that cannot support them might not always be a great thing then we haven't a hope of getting anywhere.

 

I'm not 'anti' otter. Calls for a "cull" or whatever are completely insane. What *should* have happened is that for every otter re-introduced they should have notified every stillwater owner in a 20-30 miles radius (the otter's hunting range). And footed the bill for any otter fencing required. Would only cost a few hundred thousand pounds per otter.............. But as they're such amazing creatures that the general public adores I'm sure nobody would have minded footing the bill.....................?

 

They should have spent years carrying out extensive fish surveys on the local waterways to see just how 'strong' the silverfish and eel populations were. I keep hearing Eel populations have crashed by 95% over the past 30 years. What did they assume otters would eat?

 

What are the effects of cormorants on the otter's prey? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Just releasing predators into the 'wild' and saying "there you go, everything is healthy now" doesn't seem very honest.

 

The sickest irony of the whole story is that 'we' as anglers are hugely responsible for their success! Who stocks the ponds with carp and fish? Who pays for the stocking of rivers? Who ends up feeding them? We do! Great, isn't it?

 

What is so 'wild' and 'miraculous' about a recovery whereby an apex predator is introduced to the wild where it feeds itself from man-made, artificially stocked lakes and ponds? Or even garden ponds when they get desperate? Is that sustainable? Is that a "success"?

 

Far better to have a pretty blonde woman waltz around the countryside saying how amazing everything is. That's makes for much better TV.

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The sickest irony of the whole story is that 'we' as anglers are hugely responsible for their success! Who stocks the ponds with carp and fish? Who pays for the stocking of rivers? Who ends up feeding them? We do! Great, isn't it?

 

What is so 'wild' and 'miraculous' about a recovery whereby an apex predator is introduced to the wild where it feeds itself from man-made, artificially stocked lakes and ponds? Or even garden ponds when they get desperate? Is that sustainable? Is that a "success"?

 

Far better to have a pretty blonde woman waltz around the countryside saying how amazing everything is. That's makes for much better TV.

 

Just a thought, but maybe we shouldn't have man-made, artificially over stocked lakes, and ponds all over the country.

If you want to attract predators, in artificially high numbers, then give them artificially high numbers of prey for them to feed on.

 

I'm against the indiscriminate/unofficial release of otters, but I'm also against doing it with fish as well, (and we all know that happens).

 

John.

 

PS, if it was a choice between watching Ellie Harrison, or catching carp, no contest, it's Ellie all the way. :wub:

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Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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eels and elvers stock are quite healthy this year, the trust needs to review the pointless take ban on anglers. As for otters, wasn't it correct that it was less then 150 released quite a few years ago now, so as for wholesale releases, I find that a little exaggeration to say they least.

 

Quite a healthy stock of cormorants and roach down at radipole right next to one of the largest mullet stocks btw. :thumbs: and a healthy stock of cormorants are at the successful trout fishery at Walthamstow, btw.

 

Extensive fish surveys haven't been carried out, yet the trust still called for cormorants and goosanders to be put on licence to shoot. And there is absolutely no comments what so ever re the other fish eating bird, the shag, and they are 3 times more in abundance, I find that strange.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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