Cabinet Reshuffle

[Guest tigger]

It was also good to see the BNP ruffle some feathers.

 

 

Yeah great stuff

Pity I can't vote for them here. Never mind I'll get a chance to vote for them eventually.

[UK-Fishing-Tackle.co.uk]

Ahh yes, more old labour - what a ridiculous concept. The nation rejected old labour because it was simply an idealogy - oh yes, nice enough for people who preferred to spend more time on strike than going to work - I remember hearing stories as a kid about pits striking because a foremen swore at a worker - I mean, in the manual work game being told to f*ck off is part of the job, but the nation got itself into a ridiculous position where the unions ran it.

 

No - old labour - or socialism, or really 'communism lite' is a bloody stupid idea. The thing is new labour is just old labour with a twist. I mean, the tax credit system, whereby drop-outs are given money is a right scam - as I've said before I do a job worth twice someone else I know, but he gets paid the same after tax credits have been taken into account. Like it or not, that is semi-communist - the concept of redistribution of wealth and all. Instead of using unions to back up the working classes and secure excessive pay conditions Labour have just took unions out of the loop and decided to manage the handouts themselves!!!

 

I come from a family that wasn't particularly well off, but we didn't want for much (we didn't get a lot mind) - now if I was a kid from the same family background I'd have a games console, satellite TV, Nike trainers and a PSP - certainly not essentials for modern life! It annoys me when educated people say that tax credits are a good thing because no-one gave them anything in the 70's or 80's - however - these people are still alive, their children are grown up etc and no harm was done through 'being a bit hard up'.

 

Why did I try and do well at school (from an early age), college, further education?? Well - **** knows, and the problem is in ten years time if enough people see that going to university means you'll just get stitched up for fees and then struggle to beat take home wages for people who left school at 16 then they'll say the same.

 

The Conservatives are definitely this countries backup option - in a few years anyone singing labours praises will (silently and reluctantly) switch to the the cons in order to sort the nation out - it's happened before and it will happen again.

Edited May 5, 2006 by UK-Fishing-Tackle.co.uk

[DavyR]

Pity I can't vote for them here. Never mind I'll get a chance to vote for them eventually.

 

You're moving to Barking?

[DavyR]

The Conservatives are definitely this countries backup option - in a few years anyone singing labours praises will (silently and reluctantly) switch to the the cons in order to sort the nation out - it's happened before and it will happen again.

 

And once the Conservatives have been in for a bit, everyone will be fed up with them and Labour will be back in...and so it will go on, till the end of time...

[Guest tigger]

You're moving to Barking?

 

 

 

No, a place of Sanity

[Brian Carragher]

The Conservatives are definitely this countries backup option -

 

Got that one right in one

 

They got mine and millions more backs up to the point that as a party they are discredited and distrusted by the majority of voters in this country. So poor as a party they are and so devoid of ideas and policy they try and copy Blairs ideas and agenda and then have the affront to call themselves a credible alternative party.

 

A credible alternative to Chickenpox maybe but they'll never form a Government for another ten years or more

[DavyR]

So poor as a party they are and so devoid of ideas and policy they try and copy Blairs ideas and agenda and then have the affront to call themselves a credible alternative party.

 

Hang on though, didn't Labour have to copy a lot of the Tories' ideas in order to get back into power in the first place?

[UK-Fishing-Tackle.co.uk]

Ahh I knew we had some labour support lurking somewhere.

 

Sorry, but this country called on the Cons in 79 to fix a badly knackered country, and in two years, possibly six, the nation will do the same again. I like Labour supporters concepts that it is the conservatives that copy labour - a great deal of labours policies are modeled to reflect conservative type polices in a bid to appease both the working classes (their core support) and the middle.

 

The conservative party are not radical thinkers but maybe government doesn't need 'radical' ideas to keep it in the news every week. Maybe all it needs is to do is run - in fact - the less I hear about it the better.

 

I accept politics is cyclic, but many people credit labour as being economy breakers and the conservatives as being 'relative' fixers. I don't trust any spending plan which takes more off me and gives me less. It means the government are either incompetent (ahem) or are buying votes - both of which I blatantly disagree with!!!

 

Labour supporters let the conservatives run this country for a good while from the early 80's to the point where they felt confident labour had something to inherit - WHICH THEY DID. In fact, a good deal of labours initial work was simply commitment to existing spending plans. It all started to go wrong when they needed to make their own decisions, and as we can see now the one big thing that let labour into power (the concept of a sleazy cabinet) is actually as applicable to them as it is to anyone.

 

Labour are a ridiculous party - they are more of a coalition of a modern day conservative party (Blair supporters) and out and out socialists, muddled together to try and appeal to a broader range of supporters. More frequently people are seeing THEM for what they are, and you can call the Cons phonies as much as you like, but it is labour who are dressing to impress in my opinion - not the other way around.

[Sportsman]

Barking seems an aptly named place

[Brian Carragher]

Ahh I knew we had some labour support lurking somewhere.

 

Sorry, but this country called on the Cons in 79 to fix a badly knackered country, and in two years, possibly six, the nation will do the same again. I like Labour supporters concepts that it is the conservatives that copy labour - a great deal of labours policies are modeled to reflect conservative type polices in a bid to appease both the working classes (their core support) and the middle.

 

The conservative party are not radical thinkers but maybe government doesn't need 'radical' ideas to keep it in the news every week. Maybe all it needs is to do is run - in fact - the less I hear about it the better.

 

I accept politics is cyclic, but many people credit labour as being economy breakers and the conservatives as being 'relative' fixers. I don't trust any spending plan which takes more off me and gives me less. It means the government are either incompetent (ahem) or are buying votes - both of which I blatantly disagree with!!!

 

Labour supporters let the conservatives run this country for a good while from the early 80's to the point where they felt confident labour had something to inherit - WHICH THEY DID. In fact, a good deal of labours initial work was simply commitment to existing spending plans. It all started to go wrong when they needed to make their own decisions, and as we can see now the one big thing that let labour into power (the concept of a sleazy cabinet) is actually as applicable to them as it is to anyone.

 

Labour are a ridiculous party - they are more of a coalition of a modern day conservative party (Blair supporters) and out and out socialists, muddled together to try and appeal to a broader range of supporters. More frequently people are seeing THEM for what they are, and you can call the Cons phonies as much as you like, but it is labour who are dressing to impress in my opinion - not the other way around.

 

 

Jeez, and I wonder who Harry Enfield used as his model for "Tory Boy" in his TV series

 

Just remind me , because I'm not very quick on the uptake, as a 26 year old how old were you in 1979.