Advice on Multiplier Reel

[Vagabond]

Andrew, the zander simply can't do the damage that those cat's can and will do....check out the vid....

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/344842-94lb-catfish-caught-on-the-severn/

 

Gozzer, I totally agree with you, anglers moan about birds and otters etc that are actually native to our country and call for them to be culled or exterminated ! Yet they promote these invasive fish that pound for pound will most likely eat far more fish than any of the native pred's.

Anglers keep spouting about how they're conservationists and in reality they're one of the biggest threats to the waters and rivers !

 

There's so many anglers out who want to catch catfish and so **** the ramifications of introducing them so long as they can nip down the road and wind one in.

If they really want to catch one then why not just go to a specialist water that's been purpose built to house them or frigg-off to france or Spain or were they can catch some propper ones.

...and that's not a particularly large cat that snaffled the pigeon.

 

I sympathise with that view. But.......Unfortunately, we can't fish in the world as we would like it, only in the world as it is. I just have to put up with the idea that it is not worth fishing for houting or burbot or vendace in the UK any more. In return, I can fish for what is in front of me. Zander, I enjoy catching - most of the others i have caught a few, consider them over-rated as a sporting challenge, and no longer bother to fish for them (that's F1s, wels, grass carp and rainbow trout for example)

 

Yes as a purist, it would be nice to wave a magic wand and all the nasty cats would vanish. But where do you stop. Zander ? Rainbow trout ? Topmouth gudgeon? Sunbleak? Poisson chat? Grass carp ? Carp are alien, goldfish are alien, crucians are alien, FI are not even a natural fish. Should they all disappear ?

 

Come to that, barbel are alien to all but some east-flowing rivers, almost all "silver" fish are alien to much of Celtic Britain. The near-demise of vendace , powan and their relatives is partly because they can't compete with cyprinids - especially if the habitat becomes slightly degraded. It would be a brave man that advocated returning the distributions of all fish to pre-industrial levels.

 

Whatever, returning, (or not returning), an alien species can only be a token gesture, It will not significantly affect the ecosystem either way**.Consider areas that naturally have big freshwater predators (alligator gar, various giant cats, mahseer, arapaima, etc etc) They do not eat out stocks of smaller fish - fish have evolved to produce thousands of eggs for good reason - to fill population gaps.

 

 

 

**Even Anderoo's hypothetical monster cat in a village pond. It would eat all the sizeable fish, all the pigeons and ducks, the vicar's dog, any foolish village maidens skinny-dipping at night - and then starve to death. The pond would recover in a (geologically) short time.

[Disturbed]

So how about a rubber bung for a glass beaker?

[Ken L]

Well, the venue has been confirmed as the BAA's Ripple fishery. What do you reckon to the chances of getting a peg this weekend when the circus descends?

[Vagabond]

So how about a rubber bung for a glass beaker?

Yep, anything that works ! As long as it grips the trace well enough to prevent ejected bait sliding onto main line.

[Disturbed]

I'll put it so that it just under the swivel so it can't go anywhere. Thanks for all the help! I will be staying on these forums as you guys seems really helpful and a great community. Will make sure to let you all know how I get on and of course will post plenty of photos

Edited July 17, 2015 by Disturbed

[Ken L]

I'll put it so that it just under the swivel so it can't go anywhere. Thanks for all the help! I will be staying on these forums as you guys seems really helpful and a great community. Will make sure to let you all know how I get on and of course will post plenty of photos

I look forward to it. I've never visited or fished in South America (I'm more of an Asia and Australia kinda guy) and would be fascinated not only by what you manage to catch but by the cost and accessibility of decent fishing from major towns and cities. Edited July 17, 2015 by Ken L

[gozzer]

Well, the venue has been confirmed as the BAA's Ripple fishery. What do you reckon to the chances of getting a peg this weekend when the circus descends?

 

I see on the map that there is a lake right next to the river, I wonder if it came from there.

 

I agree that taking one fish out of the river is not going to make that much difference, but I would either save it for the EA to deal with, or put it out of my misery. The opinion of some seems to be, "it's there, does it really matter"? It might not, but at what stage does it begin to matter, 10 fish, 100, 1000, or the 5000 that escaped into the Yorks Ouse and Trent system during floods a few years ago? Which incidentally are showing now. A completely alien predator, that feeds like no other native species, except maybe the extinct burbot. Apart from the fact that legislation is in place, that is supposed to prevent the introduction, or release of alien species into a river system, and only into a stillwater under licence, under the threat of a large fine, and a criminal record. It seems that it's ok to ignore these things, but only if they are 'worth catching', usually because of size. I wonder what the reaction would be if an angler was caught returning top mouth gudgeon, or signal crays, would the defence of, "There are loads in there, a few more won't matter", be accepted without quibble?.

So now that we are free to decide what legislation we can, and can't ignore, then I should be able to dispatch any carp, zander, catfish, or any other species that I personally consider to be alien to a river system, (maybe have a BBQ on the bank), my match fishing mates can introduce F1s and as many mongrel carp as they can, all without any complaints from my fellow anglers.

 

 

John.

 

Again, I apologise for the use of your thread Disturbed, but with half the posts on here, it wouldn't work if I started a new one.

[Ken L]

The lake is Uckinghall Pool. No pussies in there AFAIK.

[gozzer]

The lake is Uckinghall Pool. No pussies in there AFAIK.

 

The one I meant was Mythe Pool Ken.

http://www.spotfish.co.uk/fishery/mythe-pool-baa

 

"Rumoured to hold catfish"

 

John.

[Ken L]

That's a dead link but as you no doubt know by now, Mythe Pool is another BAA fishery. Unlike Uckinghall Pool, it's not one that I've fished though.Some sources say that it's "rumored to hold a Catfish" but that's probably about as reliable as the tales of monster pike said to inhabit every park pool in the country.

 

There are very few, if any fisheries in south Worcestershire or Gloucestershire that hold catfish - presumably because the Severn is notoriously flood prone. Shatterford has them near me but that's almost 50 miles away from Ripple and although it might look close to the river, it's on the wrong side of the watershed and the fishery is a concrete bowl with no risk of flooding.

Edited July 17, 2015 by Ken L