hmmm veg oil a killer? note "may"

[chesters1]

I had the suspicion palm oil was suspect but like lots of our supposed good for you stuff its probably pushed (probably retracted ,definately top of the list ) by those that make them .

For those with heart conditions animal fat is a no-no and margerine pushed as a alternative good for you ,lard is suggested as bad and oil good butgoing by this its the opposite .I for one use dripping but do use olive oil in bread once my stock has gone it will change! Ofcourse oil is pushed as good for you on all the bottles !

Remember smoking was good how times change ! Hopefully those in power will restrict oil in food .

Bad things .....Sugar little or no control over that besides raw materials unfortunately .

Salt no control over that besides raw materials although my mrs has to use it and take electrolites as her body has low salt (when will that be found wrong?)

Confused about flour though one of the tribes has a very high carb intake and seems fine .

Oil no control other than looking for palm oil (now if its true any seed oil!)which could be hidden by not showing it in the ingrediants

Plant sterols ? More evidence they are bad for you than safe !

The stats he shows are shocking ,we are far sicker than we were in the past  we should be improving not declining.

Now LDL is being questioned is low good ? We wait to hear ! (Ofcourse the statin suppliers will object its making money flogging pills supposed to lower it!) BMJ 2015 "the more the men lowered their cholesterol the more likely they were to die from cardiovascular death" strange its never mentioned .The USA dietry guidlines say low fat is good with STRONG evidence was revealed only 7 of the results of clinical trials proved this the other 93% didnt find evidence to support it

 

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[Ken L]

Butter is definitely a healthier option than margarine, with it's hydrogenated (trans) fats.

Been watching the seed oil thing gain momentum for a while, although I haven't really done a deep dive.

Does the video go into why they are "bad", or does it just do a general waffle about them being "inflammatory"?

[chesters1]

Mostly it uses rise of obesity ,heart disease agaist rise of uses of seed oils .interesting bits about different types of food intake ,high fat diet ,high carb diet people having perfect body type because they dont use oils in their diets .

Japanese diets where japanese are gaining weight despite using less sugar and still rising as oil use rises compared to less bad things traditionally pointed at as things that make you put on weight.

The only other reason not mentioned is the burning of calories ,i have always been suspicious of the 2,500 calory bit, is it based on victorian men beating in rivets on ships 18 hours a day or office workers typing or today in more sedentary work? .Perhaps the total calorie intake of modern man should be reduced to 1500 calories to take less strenuous work of modern times.

There is also heavy pressure from food manufacturers to force scientists to ignore science ,one lot of scientists funded by industry calling anyone not supporting or countering their version of science as "deniers" just like scientists that point out the flaws in climate change are are called "deniers" in an effort to get them ignored and even despised and their version of reality hidden.

All the time money rules manufacturers will say anything to get money ,we should look at the lies from the past but money wins and the world suffers through greed and the unwillingness of governments to stop it.

One company was asked about something (would have to look again to pin it down) to prove their product wasnt bad for the user they said they could only find 'poor ' research and not enough to prove anything ,infact 43 bits of research disproved what they said .It seems they can say anything and its rare any third party actually looks to see if its true ,its just excepted as true because they said it. They dont give a damn if its lies just like the post office didnt give a damn knowing full well their system was faulty ,only when people looked into it did things change .

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[Martin56]

Can't beat a bit of "Mucky Fat" (Pork dripping & brown jelly bits) from the butchers shop, spread thin on sliced bread with a sprinkling of salt.

One of my "Guilty Pleasures". Fold it in half like a Jam Buttie.

T'was also, favourite fayre for Pub games nights. 

Edited April 12 by Martin56

[*Ant*]

11 hours ago, Ken L said:

Butter is definitely a healthier option than margarine, with it's hydrogenated (trans) fats.

Dear lord, are fats now confused about their gender too? 

[chesters1]

9 hours ago, Martin56 said:

Can't beat a bit of "Mucky Fat" (Pork dripping & brown jelly bits) from the butchers shop, spread thin on sliced bread with a sprinkling of salt.

One of my "Guilty Pleasures". Fold it in half like a Jam Buttie.

T'was also, favourite fayre for Pub games nights. 

Not my favourite my gran on my dads side (a genuine cockney) offered it but one bite later i gave it back .Dripping not so bad we still use it for frying although the over the counter version is a sad bland relation nearer lard in constitution. Drew the line at jellied eels as well my mothers side of me probably had inbuilt dislike of sucking bones in my mouth to get a morsal of meat ,remove the meat from the bone ..fine!

There seems to be this correlation though in the video to oils but lifestyle has changed aswell .Back then you chose what went in your food and today unless you cook like they did in the past the foods pumped full of poison whether you want it or not.Take bacon theres no need at all for nitites or nitrates being injected into it (mostly to bulk it up and make it weigh more (nitrates? Is now gone) bacon can be made without any additives other than smoke but those with low incomes cannot afford that so they eat what they can get.Why the need for sugar or salt in products leave it out and leave it up to the consumer to add it if they want ,same for half of the additives are they really needed or just there to make processing cheaper by innjecting taste into food like chicken stock cubes to make chicken taste like chicken because its so bland today as the chickens rarely eat natural food.

I predict in a short while additive(s) X or Y will suddenly will found to be killing millions because governments cannot be arsed to look after people checking the science behind it.Most probably they already know and brown envelopes and greed keep them quiet ,why would they care so long as they can afford the expensive clean stuff (probably on expenses)

Could explain this suddenly strange world we now inhabit somethings causing it perhaps something put in the food or water to dissolve the brain so we can be controlled easier but going by the recent demonstrations its back fired and the bit of the brain that controls common sense and the realisation of consequence of your actions has dissolved away and the idiot bit amplified.

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[Ken L]

The sodium nitrite is what stops you getting a whole body botox.

[chesters1]

Perhaps a whole body botox would be nice ?

Not sure i get your drift though bacon can be made without additives i used to sell half pigs thats only additive was smoke .

Perhaps the nitrite side isnt for safety but to give the excuse to inject the water that carries it ,more water more profit .

A top tip to see how much water is injected into your food is to freeze it and see how much free water there is when defrosted ,a pack of sliced ham has a great deal ,more water more profit .

Are nitrites needed at all or just an excuse ,parma ham is pork theres no additives apart from salt and it hangs about for months .Bacon lives in fridges so less chance of toxins in the short time between killing and eating the most dangerous bit would be the £2.50 an hour romanians that produce it gobbing on it, nitritaes aint going to protect you from that hazard.

On retrospect £2.50 could be the manager of the run down factories wage !

Edited April 12 by chesters1