Do Bass Nursery Areas Benefit Anyone ?

[Steve Coppolo]

It may interest readers of this forum that there are now three huge pelagic trawlers south of the Lizard now,the Dirk Diederik, Atlantic Princess, and Cornelius Vrolijk Fzn. Two of them are registered in this country and are Dutch owned,fishing quite legally i'm sure against the UK quota. They are just outside the 12 mile limit and are not therefore seen by most anglers. Google these babies and guess how much fish thy have to catch to remain viable. Worth considering when you blame aman in a thirty foot boat for catching all the bass?

ps at least one was just off the mouth of the Tees two weeks ago, again about 12 miles off.

 

Come on Captain Sensible, don't try to take our eye off the ball. Last month there was a BBC report which showed two Chinese blokes in a rubber boat fishing within a BNA, apparently, and they had caught four bass. Your attempt at diverting anglers' attention away from important issues like that, with your pictures of cross channel ferries, just won't do!

 

[Captain Sensible]

You can laugh but I am deadly seious when I tell you that two of the ships I have named are fishing, as I type this, just over 10miles south of Lizard point.

This is no joke.

 

Please google those names.

[glennk]

You can laugh but I am deadly seious when I tell you that two of the ships I have named are fishing, as I type this, just over 10miles south of Lizard point.

This is no joke.

 

Please google those names.

 

 

I get the feeling your missing the reel point in Steves posts Captain. As if those boats could do any damage to fish stocks. Everyone knows its the lads plugging around the power stations.

[Steve Coppolo]

You can laugh but I am deadly seious when I tell you that two of the ships I have named are fishing, as I type this, just over 10miles south of Lizard point.

This is no joke.

 

Please google those names.

 

As Glenn says, I was having a laugh. What you've posted just reinforces what I've been banging on about.

[barry luxton]

You can laugh but I am deadly seious when I tell you that two of the ships I have named are fishing, as I type this, just over 10miles south of Lizard point.

This is no joke.

 

Please google those names.

 

If they are fishing for bass they can only land so much, what makes it viable for these ships then, do they have quota for something else. Why is it a concern if they are fishing legally.

Edited November 23, 2008 by barry luxton

[Captain Sensible]

Thanks for your replies men. The two ships in question are still in the area. My guess is that they are still processing last nights catch.

 

I take your point Barry about what they are allowed to land. Let's just suppose they catch fish they have no quota for or more bass than they can land (probably never happens). Its back over the side with it as I know you are aware. Their discards alone would probably pay to keep most of the under 10m fleet tied up.

 

I'm glad that some of you appreciate what goes on over the horizon.

Edited November 23, 2008 by Captain Sensible

[Leon Roskilly]

If they are fishing for bass they can only land so much

 

Each boat can elect to land 5 tonne of bass per week or 15 tonne for the month.

 

Pair trawling for bass is illegal for UK boats down in the South-West, out to 12 miles.

 

(Outside of 12 only a few UK boats with a track record are licensed to pair-trawl for bass).

 

If anyone has evidence that boats are illegally pair-trawling in the restricted area, they should contact the Marine Fisheries Agency.

Edited November 23, 2008 by Leon Roskilly

[steve good]

Hi All

 

Do bass nursery areas benefit anyone. YES THEY DO

 

At this time of year when the bass leave the nursery areas and seek deeper water to over winter, as soon as they get out passed the six mile limit the French and other member states just SCOOPthem all up in their great big TRAWLS.

 

Nursery areas like marine nature reserves and no take zones are a complete waste of time unless the fish reside in them 12 monthes of the year

 

People that think nursery areas, no take zones and marine nature reserves work are deluding themsevles, they are just goody two shoes people that have watch and caught the Attenborough disease, Dreamers

 

steve

[Captain Sensible]

Thank you for that Leon, these are huge pelagic trawlers over 109 meters in length each towing a single midwater trawl. They are fishing for either herring, sprats, mackerel or scads. No doubt they are fishing legally. Any bass bycatch is a bonus.

 

Please don't confuse legallity with morality.

[steve good]

Thanks for your replies men. The two ships in question are still in the area. My guess is that they are still processing last nights catch.

 

I take your point Barry about what they are allowed to land. Let's just suppose they catch fish they have no quota for or more bass than they can land (probably never happens). Its back over the side with it as I know you are aware. Their discards alone would probably pay to keep most of the under 10m fleet tied up.

 

I'm glad that some of you appreciate what goes on over the horizon.

 

Hi Captain

 

Those two ships were fishing my area (IoW to Brighton) also outside the 12 afew weeks ago, I think they are seiners

 

I dont know what they are catching but it takes them 6-8 hours to sought out their catch before they re-shoot their net

 

Probably takes them all that time measuring all the bass they caught that has just left the nursery areas

 

steve