Discards

[glennk]

Thanks everyone for your emails and pm's.

[Ian Burrett]

Why,

Have had a look back through previous threads on here and have not seen a single statement by any person who has had first hand experience of discards that you have believed.

Do you just want people to trawl the internet and find you discard figures that are acceptable to your own way of thinking?

By all means glen have a discussion on discards, but if you ask a question then please give some people a bit of credit for answering you.

Looking through previous posts it seams to start with discards, then if they don’t seam to get the point across it moves on to blinders. Put blinders in your search on here and it makes interesting reading. At least it would be interesting if FN was to read about the accusations that where being made.

 

Your the man to tell them

 

 

Hi Ian,

 

If this report is true, i would have to ask was they using the correct mesh size. If they was then this is a problem that needs to be adressed. I wonder if mr bradshaw gets to here about this?

 

cheers barry

 

 

The mesh size is irrelevant once the cod end gets full as nothing escapes, particularly with a diamond mesh

[Guest challenge]

Your the man to tell them

The mesh size is irrelevant once the cod end gets full as nothing escapes, particularly with a diamond mesh

What me being a failed Commercial fisherman?

So what size meshes do they have above the cod end then?

Edited December 5, 2006 by challenge

[WALCOTT]

Poor old Cod fisherman...not ever caught owt...think you should leave all this Challenge...do some Filleting video's....Glenn K will want one for his monster...may be it will be on the sea otter site..we will see.

[glennk]

Hi walcott I'm a shore angler mate not boat - You will be able to view the piccy in the whitby sea anglers gallery soon - well as soon as Bernado sorts one out for me.

 

http://www.whitbyseaanglers.co.uk/gallery2.php

 

A small fish in comparison to your boat caught monster but not bad for a shore fish.

[barry luxton]

Your the man to tell them

The mesh size is irrelevant once the cod end gets full as nothing escapes, particularly with a diamond mesh

 

 

Again Ian if the above is true then there are serious questions to ask with regards to all of the trawl not just the cod end. If this is the cause of the motorway wide wastage in discard.

 

Cheers barry

[glennk]

Did you not know that Barry ? Thats why they get so many tiddler codling at herring spawn time around here. The bulk of the **** they pick up blocks all the net.

[wurzel]

Of course if we shut down areas of the seas around Britain to allow stocks to recover, this would not happen. Also please will someone explain to Wurzel why this is necessary. Painful I know, but necessary.

 

 

Of course you are going to explain, how are closed areas are going to stop discards?

It will be painfull but please have a go anyway.

[wurzel]

Again Ian if the above is true then there are serious questions to ask with regards to all of the trawl not just the cod end. If this is the cause of the motorway wide wastage in discard.

 

Cheers barry

 

 

Hello barry

 

I think you are getting confused between dumping and discarding.

The mackerel boats would dump fish if they were the wrong grade, white fish boats discards are nothing in comparison.

 

I am not sure there is any discards these days, with 120 mm cod ends, nothing like it used to be any way.

[steve good]

What information is available on discards by the UK fleet of UK species ?

 

Mostly interested in Haddock, Cod and Mackerel but any info on other species would also be appreciated

 

Hi Glennk

 

Why just the UK fleet, EU Member states fish our waters more than us,

 

Discards, mmmm, is it not when the Uk Goverment do large scale de-commissining, impose unfair public sector quotas, bring in MPS, and when in serch of votes at election time introduce increase in mls for bass which creates discards or mmmmm let me see is it when the Goverment hand out as many aggregate dredgeing licences so as to get money for doing so without regard for commercials lost income, reward anglers for votes THANKFULLY recieved by giving them the MAGIC GOLDEN MILE ( sounds like something out of charlie and the choclate factory maybe dear BEN thinks that as well lol) and all the other things in the pipe line that what will reduce the commercials income.

 

It seems to me that UK commercials are being discarded at a greater rate than fish stocks, so when you say DISCARDS do you mean fish or fishermen?

 

Regards Steve