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[Guest Brumagem Phil]

Sorry barry but i think thats just a bit tooooo harsh and judgemental for me.

 

We ALL make life choices not often knowing the impact they will have on us later in life or upon others. Many in the 60's took LSD unaware of the personality issues it may present later in life. Our modern youth are often oblivious to the dangers of ecstacy........or simply think it may never happen to them.

 

Of course those dopy souls who go fishing off a boat deserve no sympathy if they fallover the side and drown right? How about sky divers, racing drivers or any other risky activity? Should we be so callous in our attitudes to them too?

 

We could all take up knitting and bird watching i guess, but my feeling is the world would be a lesser place if we did.

 

Not having a go at you, just saying I think your view was a little harsh mate.

Edited January 18, 2009 by Brumagem Phil

[corydoras]

Agreed........

 

THC however does according to much evidence change the brains chemistry and indeed peoples personalities in some cases. On that basis I don;t think dope should be dismissed too lightly despite its apparent lack of addictiveness.

 

Poppies tend to produce much more addictive and damaging drugs though such as heroin.

 

Its just choice I guess, but I think drugs damage our society far more than 'terrorism' and on that basis i'd rather our troops fought the drug lords over there and burned their fields. I appreciate though that others won't necessarily agree.

Please explain in terminology a thirteen year old would understand why someone sparking up a spliff is worse than a terrorist? My son likes a good giggle.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

Please explain in terminology a thirteen year old would understand why someone sparking up a spliff is worse than a terrorist? My son likes a good giggle.

 

Fortunately for me a thirteen year old does not appreciate the full implications of either action therefore my explanation is not required!

[corydoras]

To see the effects that it can have on people is disturbing, in particular when you have a close relative who has a split personality because of it

Sounds to me like your on the Post hoc ergo propter hoc again Barry.

 

* A occurred, then B occurred.

* Therefore, A caused B.

[Vagabond]

We could all take up knitting and bird watching i guess.

Phil, you may regard birdwatching as for the wimpish end of humanity, but REAL birdwatching is another matter.

 

My wife is a keen birdwatcher. Our trips abroad involve both fishing and birdwatching. We do both activities together.

 

Fishing the deep sea and big tropical rivers is not devoid of risk, but the real risks come from the birdwatching component.

 

We have driven over hair-raising mountain passes, trekked through deserts, climbed cliffs, descended ravines and traversed miles of untracked wilderness, in hired car, on foot, on horseback and even by camel.

 

We have walked, sometimes guided, but often unguided, in tiger country, lion country, grizzly bear country and various other wild places - (even at night when looking for owls and nightjars)

 

We risk malaria, tick-borne fever and who knows what else every time we step into a jungle.

 

We have been held at gunpoint twice - once in Zimbabwe and once on the Jordan-Israel border.

 

We have fought off would-be muggers in Costa Rica, and driven (fast!) through an area inhabited by Guatemalan bandits.

 

......and we are not members of a crack fighting regiment, we are a couple of old-age pensioners.

 

I agree with your point about taking risks - but you need another analogy - like sitting in front of a keyboard perhaps?.

[Elton]

And on the flipside, when my mum was a Cat 10 freefall parachutist, she never declared it as a risky sport. Statistically, it's safer than most.

[barry luxton]

Sounds to me like your on the Post hoc ergo propter hoc again Barry.

 

* A occurred, then B occurred.

* Therefore, A caused B.

 

Don't agree with that, i said it was either one or the other.

[corydoras]

Fortunately for me a thirteen year old does not appreciate the full implications of either action therefore my explanation is not required!

This one would he's been brought up on Critical Thinking an logical explanations. Sounds like a cop-out on your part Phil, not like you at all.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

Phil, you may regard birdwatching as for the wimpish end of humanity, but REAL birdwatching is another matter.

 

My wife is a keen birdwatcher. Our trips abroad involve both fishing and birdwatching. We do both activities together.

 

Fishing the deep sea and big tropical rivers is not devoid of risk, but the real risks come from the birdwatching component.

 

We have driven over hair-raising mountain passes, trekked through deserts, climbed cliffs, descended ravines and traversed miles of untracked wilderness, in hired car, on foot, on horseback and even by camel.

 

We have walked, sometimes guided, but often unguided, in tiger country, lion country, grizzly bear country and various other wild places - (even at night when looking for owls and nightjars)

 

We risk malaria, tick-borne fever and who knows what else every time we step into a jungle.

 

We have been held at gunpoint twice - once in Zimbabwe and once on the Jordan-Israel border.

 

We have fought off would-be muggers in Costa Rica, and driven (fast!) through an area inhabited by Guatemalan bandits.

 

......and we are not members of a crack fighting regiment, we are a couple of old-age pensioners.

 

I agree with your point about taking risks - but you need another analogy - like sitting in front of a keyboard perhaps?.

 

Crikey, i'll never view tossing my scraps of bread to the tits in the same light again

 

Brilliantly written as always though V.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

This one would he's been brought up on Critical Thinking an logical explanations. Sounds like a cop-out on your part Phil, not like you at all.

 

Not really Cory, I think you tried to muddy the waters by comparing terrorism to smoking a spliff when the implication was the harvesting and importing of tons of crack cocaine and heroin caused the country more in the way of lives and financial trouble than terrorism.

 

In the big scheme of things, direct Islamic terrorism in the UK has cost the country few in the way of lost lives. In comparison to how much money we spend on the problem its a non issue for me. I'd rather see the billions we spend in Afghanistan spent on flame throwers to torch the poppy fields.