Anglers' Fury About Actor's Ignorant Comments

[barry luxton]

Ohhhhhhhhhh dear, is this the class of responsible advise given out by the A T. What about 47 or the new rules being sort by defra to control the rsa with. Can we have recommendations urgently about the cancellation or support of 47, time is of the essence..

 

Fancy getting upset about an excellent entertainment programme, that is all it is, haven't they got more pressing things to deal with. Or is this classed as a soft easy target.

Edited March 26, 2009 by barry luxton

[Steve Coppolo]

Ohhhhhhhhhh dear, is this the class of responsible advise given out by the A T. What about 47 or the new rules being sort by defra to control the rsa with. Can we have recommendations urgently about the cancellation or support of 47, time is of the essence..

 

Fancy getting upset about an excellent entertainment programme, that is all it is, haven't they got more pressing things to deal with. Or is this classed as a soft easy target.

 

I think you've got it, Barry.

 

It appears to be yet another case of someone saying what they think people want to hear, to win a bit of support, without putting too much thought into it.

[barry luxton]

I think you've got it, Barry.

 

It appears to be yet another case of someone saying what they think people want to hear, to win a bit of support, without putting too much thought into it.

 

 

Indeed, just wondering if corrie is next in line for the onslaught, they must have mentioned fish in one of the actors transcript's at some time.

[Steve Walker]

I think it's fair enough to point out that Green's "9 out of 10 fish die" claim is pure bullshit, and leave it at that. The AT should be sticking to defending catch and release from that claim and not having a go at anglers who catch and keep.

 

It's always a problem with groups like this that they claim to speak for everyone, but actually just speak for themselves.

Edited March 26, 2009 by Steve Walker

[H.A.]

It'd be nice and glib of me to say I'm with Ronald from Essex on this one ...

 

Fillet and Release

 

or something similarly silly.

 

Those of us who have fished for coarse fish, know that the majority of returned fish do survive.

 

But that leads us into a dilemma when we catch flatties which are deep-hooked and I always kill those (in size limit) which have done that.

And the deep-water, wreck-fish like pollack and cod which do get the 'bends' etc.

 

Fish like bream, bass, rays and smuts are 'hardy' and 90% or more swim away.

 

I sympathise with Steviecops, who wants no regulation (is that right, Steve?) ...

 

but bag limits and Min/Max sizes will come in eventually.

 

We're very susceptible to public awareness when popular 'celebrities', who know 'koof all' start making statements like that.

 

Given the politicising of fishing, I'm beginning to come down on the side of COMMONSENSE .

 

Is that still allowed????

 

[barry luxton]

It'd be nice and glib of me to say I'm with Ronald from Essex on this one ...

 

 

 

or something similarly silly.

 

Those of us who have fished for coarse fish, know that the majority of returned fish do survive.

 

But that leads us into a dilemma when we catch flatties which are deep-hooked and I always kill those (in size limit) which have done that.

And the deep-water, wreck-fish like pollack and cod which do get the 'bends' etc.

 

Fish like bream, bass, rays and smuts are 'hardy' and 90% or more swim away.

 

I sympathise with Steviecops, who wants no regulation (is that right, Steve?) ...

 

but bag limits and Min/Max sizes will come in eventually.

 

We're very susceptible to public awareness when popular 'celebrities', who know 'koof all' start making statements like that.

 

Given the politicising of fishing, I'm beginning to come down on the side of COMMONSENSE .

 

Is that still allowed????

 

 

Common sence, logic, cost effectiveness would mean that the eu etc keep thier hands off the rsa, it aint broke it don't need fixing or require crap legislation that will not achieve ziltch apart from line someone's pockets and pensions and an obvious slush fund. Sod off eu.

Edited March 26, 2009 by barry luxton

[Steve Coppolo]

It'd be nice and glib of me to say I'm with Ronald from Essex on this one ...

 

 

 

or something similarly silly.

 

Those of us who have fished for coarse fish, know that the majority of returned fish do survive.

 

But that leads us into a dilemma when we catch flatties which are deep-hooked and I always kill those (in size limit) which have done that.

And the deep-water, wreck-fish like pollack and cod which do get the 'bends' etc.

 

Fish like bream, bass, rays and smuts are 'hardy' and 90% or more swim away.

 

I sympathise with Steviecops, who wants no regulation (is that right, Steve?) ...

but bag limits and Min/Max sizes will come in eventually.

 

We're very susceptible to public awareness when popular 'celebrities', who know 'koof all' start making statements like that.

 

Given the politicising of fishing, I'm beginning to come down on the side of COMMONSENSE .

 

Is that still allowed????

 

Not quite right, Ada, but close. I don't want unnecessary and pointless regulation. Speed limits make the roads safer and save lives, same with drink drive regulations. This sort of regulation may be a pain in the arris, but at least it serves a purpose. Bag limits for sea anglers would serve no useful purpose. They might create work for the fisheries management industry....and keep a few RSA reps sitting around a table rubbing shoulders with their idols, but other than that they would be pointless.

 

And no, common sense isn't allowed any more.

Edited March 26, 2009 by Steve Coppolo

[barry luxton]

Not quite right, Ada, but close. I don't want unnecessary and pointless regulation. Speed limits make the roads safer and save lives, same with drink drive regulations. This sort of regulation may be a pain in the arris, but at least it serves a purpose. Bag limits for sea anglers would serve no useful purpose. They might create work for the fisheries management industry....and keep a few RSA reps sitting around a table rubbing shoulders with their idols, but other than that they would be pointless.

 

And no, common sense isn't allowed any more.

Your polite Steve. Your not a closet mp are you.

[Steve Coppolo]

Just had another thought about this press release. The 'headline'says, "Anglers' fury at..........blah, blah, blah" Anglers' fury = The Anglers are furious. How do they know? Did they ask their membership if they were furious? Did they get a flurry of emails from furious anglers that they suddenly started reading? Or did they just seek to get publicity, any publicity, on the back of a sensationalist headline?

[bobdurauntti]

I'm no fan of Robson Green and think he comes across as a bit of a plonker on that show, but his comments were nowhere near as daft as the one asking whether Elton kills coarse and game fish because he has complained. I mean,.....what's all that about?

 

Perhaps the person from the angling Trust who was asked for a quote or commenting on the story was from the freshwater and coarse sector where catch and release is considered a standard practice, that is certainly my assumption, after all, the Angling trust is comprised of all sectors of the industry. There is nothing to suggest that this was a comment made solely by a member of the marine team, in fact the wording of the response indicates that it was not, my point before the usual howls of derision commenced was that it is understandable that someone not associated with sea angling i.e. a coarse rep may make a general comment or quote that fits the bill for their sectors, but not necessarily will ring wholly true for sea angling. To deride the marine team and AT in general for comments made by a single person is largely unfair.