Perch success

[lutra]

Great perch Ant, nice one.

 

Can anyone help with the identity of the carp in the first photo. It appears to be cammon carp but has characteristics of a crucian or the old fantail carp I used to catch as a boy.

Yes that first carp does look a bit cruciany and if my counting is right (32) it has a scale count that suggest there could be something like crucian in it.

[Emma two]

Very good, a big perch is the very biggest of fish.

[Anthony78]

Great perch Ant, nice one.

 

 

Yes that first carp does look a bit cruciany and if my counting is right (32) it has a scale count that suggest there could be something like crucian in it.

 

If my memory serves me correctly I don't believe that it had barbules either. I know it isn't a crucian but I am swaying towards a brown goldfish/king carp cross.

 

Ant

[Rusty]

I love it when a big perch displays its gut in the photo, when they get to that size they just all look like old warriors. Fantastic colours too, well done Ant!

[Phone]

Ant,

 

Beautiful fishes. However I am not a perch guy. I am however interested in the carp. Much like Emma I counted the scales. In common caro (scaley carp) the scales are large, and number 32-40 along the lateral line. I only count 31 on both sides. Of course I could be missing one a the tail very easily.

 

Just FYI in answer to your question. The fish cannot be a cross of the fish usually referred to in the UK as a "king carp" They are also known as a leather carp. Here is the inheritance of scale pattern (“scaly” SSnn, Ssnn; “mirror” ssnn; “line” SSNn, SsNn and “leather” ssNn). The NN allele is lethal.

King carp cross can only produce mirrors.

 

If it did not have barbles it is a cross with another species of crypid - not common carp. Which, in and of itself while not unheard of is NOT common. Our most common crossover in the US is with goldfish. That doesn't look like a goldfish cross to me.

 

In either case IMO it is not an original stock considered "British". Of course to be certain an expensive DNA test would be required.

 

Phone

Edit: Often my Brit carp anglers over here do not distinguish between "line" (linear) and "mirror". They are, however, different.

Edited March 20, 2012 by Phone

[Headless]

Well done mate.

 

a good read and a stunning looking Perch

 

Darrell

[Anthony78]

Thanks guy's.

 

To be honest as the water is highly coloured due to the number of carp in there I fully expected any perch I caught to be washed out but was more than pleasantly surprised with this fish as the colours/markings were perfect.

 

 

 

Phone,

Thanks for the info. I'll pass on the expensive DNA test on this occasion I think I'll start asking around to see if anyone recalls a recent stocking of carp and whether they can shed some light on the strain.

 

Does anyone know if stocking records can be easily sourced?

 

Thanks

 

Ant

[Phone]

Ant,

 

Most important, - - - - no barbles - - - - - not 100% carp.

 

Phone

[Steve Burke]

Many congratulations indeed!! That's a fish of a lifetime! :clap2: :clap2:

[Adam247]

great looking perch, may have to try powers to perswade the lake owner i go to to let me use some small roach as bait ...