Boat hire

[Sportsman]

Sounds like a lay mans description of the mammalian dive reflex. You get dumped into water and you will gasp and breath-thold involuntarily and then your heart will slow down. The effect is stronger in cold water or with infants and, yes, it would feel like the cold shock was preventing you from breathing. You would breath though and rapid shallow breaths would be typical of the reflex response and that makes swimming more difficult.

 

It's probably confused with laryngeal spasm and dry drowning.

[Sportsman]

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ooo i've not been called that for a long time

 

Read it again, I didn't call you anything, just the nonsense you were told.

I would still be interested in which rig you were referring to. Was it the Piper Alpha by any chance?

[Clifftop]

Read it again, I didn't call you anything, just the nonsense you were told.

I would still be interested in which rig you were referring to. Was it the Piper Alpha by any chance?

 

 

not sure, it was in the late seventies and i think there were around 45 deaths

Edited October 27, 2012 by Clifftop

[Sportsman]

not sure, it was in the late seventies and i think there were around 45 deaths

 

At that time it would probably have been the Alexander L Kielland in the Norwegian sector.

It turned over in March 1980 alongside the Edda Charlie platform.

123 men were killed, some trapped inside and some in the water.

It was this that started sea survival training in the North Sea. Before this we had no training at all. I know this because I was the Medic on the Kielland for 18months up until around 3 months before the capsize. My mate George Purcell was the Medic onboard when it happened. He was on day 2 of his first ever trip offshore. He wouldn't have stood a chance.

The problem was that the guys who made it out onto the deck could see the Edda platform very close by so they did what they had seen in the movies and stripped off before jumping in, the worst possible thing that you can do but they didn't know any better. They would almost certainly have died from cold shock so you can see where the stories come from. The sea temperatures are at their coldest in March and it was lousy weather with wind speeds up to 40 knots and large waves.

Thankfully better equipment and better training means that such a death toll would be much less likely now.

[Andrew]

Now why doesn't that surprise me

 

 

How very patronising of you old Sporty

 

My choice not your pal,

[Andrew]

Tell me Sporty, do you stick to EVERY H&S rule ?

[Clifftop]

At that time it would probably have been the Alexander L Kielland in the Norwegian sector.

It turned over in March 1980 alongside the Edda Charlie platform.

123 men were killed, some trapped inside and some in the water.

It was this that started sea survival training in the North Sea. Before this we had no training at all. I know this because I was the Medic on the Kielland for 18months up until around 3 months before the capsize. My mate George Purcell was the Medic onboard when it happened. He was on day 2 of his first ever trip offshore. He wouldn't have stood a chance.

The problem was that the guys who made it out onto the deck could see the Edda platform very close by so they did what they had seen in the movies and stripped off before jumping in, the worst possible thing that you can do but they didn't know any better. They would almost certainly have died from cold shock so you can see where the stories come from. The sea temperatures are at their coldest in March and it was lousy weather with wind speeds up to 40 knots and large waves.

Thankfully better equipment and better training means that such a death toll would be much less likely now.

 

 

Thats the one.

[Andy_1984]

wow i didnt think this would have got to so many pages so quickly.

 

i doubt i would ever get on a boat without a life jacket even in the smallest and calmest of waters. i see it as akin to wearing a seat belt in a car yet ive never been in a crash but if it ever does happen wont i be glad i wore a seat belt.

Edited October 27, 2012 by Andy_1984

[Sportsman]

Tell me Sporty, do you stick to EVERY H&S rule ?

 

No

Just the ones that are likely to save my life.

I wear a seatbelt in a car and a lifejacket in a boat.

I would be stupid not to wouldn't I?

[Sportsman]

wow i didnt think this would have got to so many pages so quickly.

 

i doubt i would ever get on a boat without a life jacket even in the smallest and calmest of waters. i see it as akin to wearing a seat belt in a car yet ive never been in a crash but if it ever does happen wont i be glad i wore a seat belt.

 

Exactly, just common sense really.

The problem is that common sense doesn't seem to be too common