pole and nuisance carp

[Kappa]

So there is a little water near me that has some good perch and roach and is fun to fish with the pole.

 

However it (as all lakes these days are) stuffed with carp. In this warm weather they fight like stink and are a real handful on the pole. So much so I exploded my 3rd pole section on one on Friday.

 

I don't really mind the smaller ones but the doubles and larger really make it impossible to fish as light as I'd like for the fish I'm actually targeting.

 

I know I can fish rod and line (I had to after I broke my pole) but I like fishing the pole and the finesse it allows. Plus I've just replaced my pole with a nicer one and I promised the guy I got it from I wouldn't break it!

 

So any tips on an easy way to lose the carp quickly without leaving a hook in them or having to constantly retackle?

 

I'm using fairly large hooks as I'm using larger baits for the perch and roach, is there a fine enough wire pattern that will open a size 8 to 12 with a pole setup.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Rich

[Ken L]

Fish even lighter and fish barbless.

They'll get rid of the hooks.

[Andy_1984]

if the fish are a handful and a pole cant get em under control and your breaking sections stick to rod and line, I don't think the carp know you want to fart about with finesse.

[Kappa]

I know what your saying Andy, I'd prefer to avoid them or just have the hook straighten straight away so I could fish effectively for the roach.

[Phone]

Kappa,

 

Maybe use a gold aberdeen hook? Certainly I don't know for sure if that would work for you but some are marked with the load it takes to straighten them (i.e. 3lb). Problem may be that they are hard to find. I've never seen a short shank aberdeen fish hook(?).

 

Phone

 

Just a question. How can a pole break before reaching the breaking strength of the line?

 

EDIT: 'Ell, ask some of the fly fishermen about some of the thin wire hooks they use for brookies. I'm sure there are fly fishing hooks that would meet your needs.

Edited July 29, 2013 by Phone

[gozzer]

I've been looking for some for ages Rich, but the biggest I've seen are size 14s.

As Phone says there are some fly hooks that say they are fine wire, and some are advertised as 'crappie' hooks, but they are usually much bigger.

If you go into a tackle shop, and explain that you want a hook weak enough to lose a carp, they look at you as if you're stupid.

I know I've been there.

 

Years ago I used to get a fine wire size 12 for flake fishing for roach, but I can't remember who made them.

 

John.

[robtherake]

Tubertini do fine wire hooks in sizes up to a 10. They might fit the bill.

[Dales]

Like others have suggested you could try to find some fine wire hooks but at some point you have to except that you are fishing for the Roach & Perch and tackling up appropriatly for them needs to be your main focus.

 

I always think you should tackle up for what you want to catch and not what you might catch.

[John Weddup]

Tubertini do fine wire hooks in sizes up to a 10. They might fit the bill.

 

series 18 go up to size 10 and series 2 up to 12.

 

The series 18 are my main feeder hook but will straighten with a chub or tench on.

 

The series 2 are finer still and I use for roach. I normally use small sizes as they are a bit week for bigger roach. When I am after bigger roach with bread when I want a light hook I will use the series 18.

 

These are all spade and maybe difficult to find but there is an irish company selling them on ebay and I have found them thoroughly reliable. What dales says is true but its sometimes better to allow hook to straighten and eject the carp quickly.I have done this a lot whilst polefishing for roach. It gets rid of carp quickly before it damages your swim too badly. I often straighten hook and reuse saving time although maybe if I was after a real biggy might not take the risk.

 

Tubertini also do some cracking reel line and hooklength material.

 

John

Edited July 29, 2013 by John Weddup

[Kappa]

Hi John,

 

That's exactly what I need a fine wire hook that I can bend back after losing carp. The only problem with the series 18s is that they are barbed. Anyone know any fine wire large sized barbless hooks?

 

Rich