Line ratings...

[Rusty]

The thing is the rods have been designed to bend in conjunction with mono's up to and down to their rated strengths to give their maximum performance....haven't they ?

If you think about it a 4lb botton (for example) attatched to 6lb braid has got to snap off sooner than if it were attatched to a 6lb mono as the rod must bend round to it's maximum test curve sooner due to the lack of stretch...if you unerstand what i'm getting at lol.

 

Yes you're right Ian but I don't know if blank ratings are that precise. Braid is in common use these days and float rod manufacturers know that, my unsubstantiated theory is that blanks are rated against a constant pressure and under those circumstances it makes no difference whether it's braid or mono applying the pressure.

[Phone]

Tigger,

 

If you stop for a moment you would realize rod characteristics and line characteristics are COMPLETLY unrelated. A rod is designed to preform only TWO tasks. One, it is a shock absorber whilst the fish flops around. The second function is to provide lift by continuously trying to straighten back up (a rod's working curve).

You could say that the relationship between shock absorbtion and line stretch often work in unison but that is little more than a by-product. Neither the line nor the rod are designed with either of the other in mind.

 

St. Croix offers a fun, interactive way to select rodtype and action for the various types of fishing you do. Go to stcroixrods.comand click on Resources, then Rod Selector. Input water type, rod type, species,environment and fishing method for which you need a rod. Presto: Specificationsof St. Croix's suggested models pop up.

 

Also, the UK Tacklebox has a 2013 fishing line chart that may interest the UK AN guys

 

http://www.tacklebox.co.uk/pdfs/line_tests.pdf

 

Phone

[Tigger]

Tigger,

Neither the line nor the rod are designed with either of the other in mind.

 

Phone

 

 

Phone,

if that were the case then why have a line rating at all ?...narrh that doesn't sound right at all to me bud.

 

Thank's for the line ratings chart, I do like looking at them and I didn't know that tacklebox still did them. As usual sensor looks good....do for me .

[Phone]

Tigger,

 

You've started from a wrong premise

 

"Line rating" (on a rod) is simply a suggestion for CASTING. It's true, no rod will cast a one-quarter-ounce weight and a 1-ounce weight equally well. The lightest line weight in a suggested range probably won’t bend the rod sufficiently in casting. To much lift in the rod. The other way round you have a "mushy" rod.

 

Those suggested "ranges" are NOT for playing a fish into the net.

 

The manufacturer makes a specific rod they think most people are going to use for - - say perch. That typically involves 6- to 10-pound mono line, so that’s the line rating they put on the rod. It’s marketing just based on what they think people are going to do with it. (Often, IMO, they "label" the exact same rod differently - for example, a "chub special" and a "perch special" may in fact be the same rod before labeling. [i'm not sure of my species choices but you get the picture]).

 

Phone

[barry luxton]

Tigger,

 

You've started from a wrong premise

 

"Line rating" (on a rod) is simply a suggestion for CASTING. It's true, no rod will cast a one-quarter-ounce weight and a 1-ounce weight equally well. The lightest line weight in a suggested range probably won’t bend the rod sufficiently in casting. To much lift in the rod. The other way round you have a "mushy" rod.

 

Those suggested "ranges" are NOT for playing a fish into the net.

 

 

Errrrm, us salties use for example 12-20, 20-30, 50 class.

 

casting?

[Tigger]

Tigger,

 

You've started from a wrong premise

 

"Line rating" (on a rod) is simply a suggestion for CASTING. It's true, no rod will cast a one-quarter-ounce weight and a 1-ounce weight equally well. The lightest line weight in a suggested range probably won’t bend the rod sufficiently in casting. To much lift in the rod. The other way round you have a "mushy" rod.

 

Those suggested "ranges" are NOT for playing a fish into the net.

 

The manufacturer makes a specific rod they think most people are going to use for - - say perch. That typically involves 6- to 10-pound mono line, so that’s the line rating they put on the rod. It’s marketing just based on what they think people are going to do with it. (Often, IMO, they "label" the exact same rod differently - for example, a "chub special" and a "perch special" may in fact be the same rod before labeling. [i'm not sure of my species choices but you get the picture]).

 

Phone

 

Thank's Phone, that's a good point bud and I have heard it before somewhere .

[JV44]

Yes you're right Ian but I don't know if blank ratings are that precise. Braid is in common use these days and float rod manufacturers know that, my unsubstantiated theory is that blanks are rated against a constant pressure and under those circumstances it makes no difference whether it's braid or mono applying the pressure.

What about the rings are they all ok to use with braid?? noisy stuff that it is running through them

[lutra]

Similar situation with fly fishing, not much stretch in most fly lines, but made worse by the amount of drag they create through the water.

You must have very different fly lines to me. The courtland and airflo's I've just pulled on have loads of stretch like mono.

[lutra]

Ian, most fly rods couldn't snap a fly line, but they can snap the hook length.

 

As said, for low stretch lines and big fish with light hook lengths, use a softer rod and don't read what it says on the rod about line ratings. It's only a rod.

[barry luxton]

 

 

As said, for low stretch lines and big fish with light hook lengths, use a softer rod and don't read what it says on the rod about line ratings. It's only a rod.

 

 

ahh, I have a matching pair, identical, however, one is 12-18 the other 20-30, both exactly the same length, diameter, weight. How do I tell one from the other without looking at the writing?

 

No rod bending allowed.