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do no immigrants not work pay taxes and spend their earned money in the uk economy?


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Let us see rather that like Janus—or better, like Yama, the Brahmin god of death—religion has two faces, one very friendly, one very gloomy...” Arthur Schopenhaur


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do no immigrants not work pay taxes and spend their earned money in the uk economy?

 

I would of thought a few do, but there are plenty who dont work at all and claim benefits, plenty who do work and dont pay tax, plenty who work and claim benefits, others are part of organised crime - doubt they pay tax and there are thousands who send their hard earned cash out of the country to support families they have left there or to support political/terrorist groups - western union do a good trade and our economy suffers.

The thing is you cant blame them - Its the system meddled with by our own Goverments for THEIR benefit (IE to get more votes in areas of high unemployment during elections) and by the good old EU (oh the other European countries who offer immigrants f**k all must loves shipping them over here).

Even more to blame are our own benefit reliant familes who claim they cant get work or wont work for low wages.

Immigrants were invited here to do the jobs they would not do in the first place!


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Blimey, every time I accidentally wander into the non-fishing forum I feel like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat :rolleyes:

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Blimey, every time I accidentally wander into the non-fishing forum I feel like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat :rolleyes:

I expect theres some midlands sweatbox knocking them up as we type

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Not sure where people get the idea that "migrants" or "asylum seekers" or "refugees", or anyone else for that matter gets a special deal on benefits.

The rules (with the exception of the rather labarynthine EU recpicrical agreements and resposible state rules) are pretty straightforward and apply to all of the benefits litsted in the original post and to all the people who make a claim - there are NO exceptions.

 

Anyone can make a claim (that's why they will send out a claim pack even if they know you won't qualify) but to qualify, to must satisfy the habitual residence test - that is you must have been (legally) present in Great Britain (Some legislation says the United Kingdom) for 104 out of the last 156 weeks - although that varies a little for very young children.

You must not be sunject to immigration control or here illegally.

 

In a nutshell:

If you're not here legally, you get nothing.

If you are here legally, you get nothing until you've been here for at least two years - two out of the last three if you travel in and out of the country.

If another EU state is already paying you benefits, you get nothing.

 

There are no ecxeptions. It doesn't matter if you're white, it doesn't matter if you were born in Britain. It doesn't matter if you've worked (or served) in Britain. The rules apply to everyone.

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The dwp are not the only people who deal in benefits for immigrants and they are treated differently depending on which route they take .

I posted the name of it a few years ago (buggered if i can remember it now) as the two systems work in parallel)

Despite what the gov say everyone can get benefits and in many cases our foreign friends get a damn site more than an ethnic under the same circumstances

IE ALL their utility bills are paid wheres ethnics pay them from their benefits ,they to get help with housing as ethnics do but ofcourse in general unlike single ethnics single immigrants get a roof over their heads on arriving here and declaring themself ,try sending your 17 year old kid to the council for anything and they will be escorted from the premises.

 

Also they like us if we work under a cdrtain level of pay we only take from the pot and only contribute NI to the state and they like us can claim for child allowance (strangely even ones back home) so basic wage earners do not contribute to the country only take and even more strangely (which is hidden by industry trying to force wages down) workers from agencies do not have to be paid minimum wage which is great for employers ,bad for the country and bad for the workers (from here or abroad) working for a wage that cannot support them in a decent manner

 

Why do they get all their utility bills paid you ask ,its because its illegal to obtain the utilities otherwise ,there was also a caffufle about them getting bus passes wheres we are forced to walk if we dont have the cash

 

Not the people l mention in the past but readable

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/asylum/support/cashsupport/

Even weider those told to get out can claim support ,no wonder they dont

 

Oh and another thing that makes them different to us is if we claim jsa we have to look for work wheras if your an immigrant in the great great majority you get paid but not required to look for work infact its illegal to

We get ESA for being ill they get it for being ill or fit (the old income support help) if we are fit it switches to jsa and you go to the start of the paragraph

 

Ofcourse theres dedicated help for the illegals as well ,charities but ofcourse partially state funded as they all are ,so even the illegals gain ,i wish (going by experience) there was as much help for the disadvantaged ethnic as there is for the foreigners

 

NASS (wink)

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Sorry, you don't qualify to be an asylum seeker.

 

http://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095430935

 

You can though, through freedom of movement, move to another country if you prefer to live there over your country of birth. But if you do, you might find it hard to criticise others for doing the same thing and keep a straight face.

 

 

Sorry missed this as been chasing none existant benefits again! Quite right Anders old lad ONLKY one thing lets your post down though. I used to PAY for everything in France as I am of the opinion (Funny eh me having an opinion eh?) that you should NOT sponge off of any country you decide to reside in as I did. I paid my way for EVERYTHING I was asked to. the ONLY thing I SHOULD have got free was my medical treatment as I have an incurable disease (And that is EU wide.) And my Taxes as I am assessed at OVER 40% disabled. Funnily enough something I do NOT get offered in the UK? I am employed by HM and get nowt and go to France and get a rebate on taxes of around 2.5k?? But no sorry I DID pay for it all AND was better off for it! Mortgage of 1.5%, a BIG walled Garden with a 5 bed detatched house, a spare 1 bed house in the Garden and some BIG sheds!? Here I pay 450 per month to rent a 2 up and one down. And get NOTHING extra apart from stuff I MAY be expected to get as an EU resident I.E. medical care. So france is all in all BETTER for me?? Now what was it you were saying about incomers??


Chris Goddard


It is to be observed that 'angling' is the name given to fishing by people who can't fish.

If GOD had NOT meant us to go fishing, WHY did he give us arms then??


(If you can't help out someone in need then don't bother my old Dad always said! My grandma put it a LITTLE more, well different! It's like peeing yourself in a black pair of pants she said! It gives you a LOVELY warm feeling but no-one really notices!))

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See what you MEAN!! BLOODY liberty!!!! Ruddy immigrants are even taking over other PYTHONS songs now!! He SHOULD BE SINGING It's alright surely???


Chris Goddard


It is to be observed that 'angling' is the name given to fishing by people who can't fish.

If GOD had NOT meant us to go fishing, WHY did he give us arms then??


(If you can't help out someone in need then don't bother my old Dad always said! My grandma put it a LITTLE more, well different! It's like peeing yourself in a black pair of pants she said! It gives you a LOVELY warm feeling but no-one really notices!))

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