Herring Spawn fishery gets underway off the north east coast.

[clem]

I know its bad crack mate but whats the answer

One is larger and /or square mesh codends. Trouble is we are in Europe now and things turn very slowly indeed. Any cost to implement these sort of measures if met by Government thouigh would surley be re-couped by the economic returns of a improved fishery however slight that may be.

[glennk]

Yes Howard that is one answer but the eu dont appear too bothered with discards. Happier to drive them out of business with annual decreases of days at sea than make any real attempt at solving specific issues.

 

Chris what you have just said is in no way related to any point raised here. Noone asked who is, was or could be or may have been binatone. IMO you are stirring yet again. If you want to debate the cod fishery then get on with it. If you want to stir bother then find another target. If you want to go further down that line I have reanabled pm - please make contact that way.

 

Wurzel there are 3 years of cefas research underatken on local boats that says discards are very high and that this is a juvenile fishery.

Edited September 17, 2006 by glennk

[Guest challenge]

I would imagine that they might be six boats tops working this fishery this year.

We where sat on a herring mark last Sunday that had spawned. There was not a boat (commercial) to be seen.

From what was landed on the quay last week at Whitby, I don’t think that fifty percent discard? Would have been a total disaster.

There are so many commercial fishing boats attacking this fishery that alliance fish trading at Scarborough has stopped trading because of the lack of boats. Unbelievable.

Did the survey say that there was a 50% discard of small codlings? Or did they just say there was a fifty percent discard? I have experienced a 90% discard on this fishery in past years 90% of the discard was spawn.

[wurzel]

Hello Glen

 

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Wurzel there are 3 years of cefas research underatken on local boats that says discards are very high and that this is a juvenile fishery.

 

 

I know there used to be, I am not so sure about these days, I will check on the rules, I think if they are targeting cod then the mesh size is 120 mm, if they are useing smaller mesh then they are not targeting cod and there fore are only allowed a small by catch of cod, it gets a bit complicated, if they have a 120 mm square mesh escape panel they might be allowed more cod, I am not sure, I know that the local sole trawlers here are not allowed to retain other fish unless they have this panel fitted.

What ever I think the discard rate should have been reduced considerable in the last few years.

 

Shame it's not a gill net fishery, at a mesh size of 140 mm there are no discards at all.

[big_cod]

Spawn is every where now and the local fleets are having good times at the moment but sad to say it is common knowledge that discards are high when this fisherie is taking place small and immiture codlings frenzy on herring spawn and discards are high but what is the anser.

[Toerag]

Spawn is every where now and the local fleets are having good times at the moment but sad to say it is common knowledge that discards are high when this fisherie is taking place small and immiture codlings frenzy on herring spawn and discards are high but what is the anser.

 

As Wurzel said, the only realistic answer is to change from trawling to using gillnets with a sensible mesh size. Anglers may hate them, but they're a lot better than trawls when it comes to discards. Either that, or enforce a close season.

[Guest challenge]

As Wurzel said, the only realistic answer is to change from trawling to using gillnets with a sensible mesh size. Anglers may hate them, but they're a lot better than trawls when it comes to discards. Either that, or enforce a close season.

You try telling that to the few boats left (trawling) that struggle most of the year trying to make a living and then get a chance to boost there earnings on this historical and traditional fishery.

[Leon Roskilly]

I've seen the FN stuff about French trawlers draging away the Bridlington (?) guys gear; are they off your coast a lot now? does anyone board them and check them out?

 

They're back!

 

See: http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...ares_again.html

[Jaffa]

Chris what you have just said is in no way related to any point raised here. Noone asked who is, was or could be or may have been binatone. IMO you are stirring yet again. If you want to debate the cod fishery then get on with it. If you want to stir bother then find another target. If you want to go further down that line I have reanabled pm - please make contact that way.

 

Stavey raised the subject of Binatone and I responded to him, at which point you seem to have felt obliged to butt in . If you have issues with that then please do PM me about them.

 

I'd be delighted to debate the "cod fishery" if you could tell me just exactly what we are debating?

 

 

Okay, you saw "them" from the cliff, and given the cefas reports its reasonable to assume they are likely to include your local trawlers ( your opinion of whom is of course impartial ? ) . They were too far off for you to see who they were or what exactlly they where doing; fair enough ; How do we find out?

 

FWIW the codling sizes being taken in those surveys are horrific . Just MO.

[clem]

They're back!

 

See: http://www.fishupdate.com/news/fullstory.p...ares_again.html

There has been a lot of news reports on local TV re our froggy neighbours off Brid. Good to know the navy has finally been deployed to keep an eye on things ,about time too.

There has however been no mention of what fishery the french are working . It must be a profitable one for them to come so far as I presume they land back home where they can get away with what they like on quota/size ect.

If there is good fishing out there it is a shame our lads cannot work it. Does anyone know?