chesters1 1553 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, corydoras said: There were more than 100,000,000 ballots cast. At 30 seconds per ballot it would take a voter about 9 and a half years to count them all. That's one hell of a long shift. The very system where the votes could be checked will improve the honesty i think . PS we live in the 21st century we dont hand count anything if we need to, steam counting traction engines exist i am sure Unfortunately the whole political system is based on voter trust because few have any means to challenge what is told to us nor even know how what is said was true in the first place ,any shennanigans are easily hidden away for decades Edited November 5, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 454 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, chesters1 said: The very system where the votes could be checked will improve the honesty i think . PS we live in the 21st century we dont hand count anything if we need to, steam counting traction engines exist i am sure I am pretty sure that at least postal ballots are counted by hand in the States. I have seen the counting centres. The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1553 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Probably because sorting will be needed ,but once they have been sorted into two groups and the spoiled ballots removed i think they are machine counted I think with advancing tech and well designed ballot papers even the sorting could be avoided ,my old printer reverses paper sides so if the ballot appears blank the ballot could be flipped and recounted. But anything can be forged trump is spot on saying the postal system is corrupt it is here to! I think our system is wide open to fraud ,there no check on who the voter is bar checking the address the voter says they live in,i presume if the address crops up again the ballot must be excepted incase the first ballot was illegal ,the illegal one will be counted theres nothing to show which one it was Edited November 5, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 454 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, chesters1 said: Probably because sorting will be needed ,but once they have been sorted into two groups and the spoiled ballots removed i think they are machine counted It is complicated. The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1553 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Pretty well proved my point lol Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
corydoras 454 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Not all states us machines though I guess this is why we are waiting so long for Pennsylvania. The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1553 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Could be or there a narrow margin and a recount? I wonder how they find absolutely unbiased operatives ,it would be simple for the dishonest to class votes for the unliked candidate as spoilt and spoil them 'accidentally' Edited November 5, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 Nigel doesn’t understand disinfect isn’t bleach oh dear what a plonker he is . http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1553 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Lots of disinfectants are bleach ,lots are not chlorine based IE alcohol ,whats the problem? I use BZK ,chlorine based bleaches ("bleach" and Milton) and propanol all are disinfectants as is soap etc alcohol and bleach are instant the rest ccumulativeand work but slower but kinder to the skin at the correct dose (very very bad at the wrong dose!) Edited November 5, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, chesters1 said: Lots of disinfectants are bleach ,lots are not chlorine based IE alcohol ,whats the problem? I use BZK ,chlorine based bleaches ("bleach" and Milton) and propanol all are disinfectants as is soap etc alcohol and bleach are instant the rest ccumulativeand work but slower but kinder to the skin at the correct dose (very very bad at the wrong dose!) You don’t inject bleach disinfectant do you he forget mention sulphuric acid that might work as well !!! trump thinks it might be a cure for coronavirus . Edited November 5, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
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