One for the gardeners

[S63]

Can someone I.d. this plant and this red berry thing.

 

[Ken L]

The bottom one is Lords and ladies AKA Cuckoo-pint - Arum maculatum.

A very toxic plant.

I'll have a look-see if I can find the other one.

[Ken L]

The top one is a Rudbeckia.

There are several kinds, but if you're looking to look it up or propagate it, that should be enough.

[S63]

Cheers Ken

Much appreciated

[chesters1]

Been bad in my garden this year,9 varieties of blight "resistant" toms all but one plant dead in 3 days and the one left is looking sick (obviously that one a little more resistant?)! too late to concoct bordeaux mixture  (its banned as is anything else that ever worked garden wise). That rain coming along with a breeze obviously blew it in from somewhere and it only needs a couple of days to infect plants around them and once they show signs thats it . If your lucky you can grab some toms then pray they are ok but that can change overnight from ok to brown in 24hrs !

Heres the recipe for those unaffected  but vunerable!

https://dig-for-victory.org.uk/growing-advice/dig-victory-leaflets-ww2/bordeaux-burgundy-mixture/

Careful of quicklime I bought some slaked lime to store until next year but whether that will work(perhaps slaking imparts magic?) i dont know its ending up with the same thing,Next year i will spray early ! Even crimson crush collapsed in 2 days! Dont compost the remains unless your compost gets real hot which most compost bins cannot do, burn them and steralise anything they were in or near i use bleach i suspect anything that was effective in jeyes fluid has been outlawed aswell!

They were doing so well ,all pinched out at 6ft and no blossom end rot on some this year as i had automated the watering Every day i go through the green toms we grabbed, every day the amount halves

Never mind i will use the ones i dried last year and vacuumed packed and chucked in the freezer for stews and soups ,bit crispy for cheese and tomato sarnies!

 

 

Edited August 16, 2021 by chesters1

[Ken L]

I use a winter wash on my fruit trees.

I struggled to find an oil that would emulsify easily until the penny dropped that I have one in my kitchen.

My winter wash now consists of copper sulphate and mayonnaise!

Top the strayer up with water, give it a good shake, and by bye-bye aphids and fungal diseases.

[chesters1]

Yuk ,will salad cream do? Will Olive oil do or veg oil emulsified?

Not sure what the lime bit does in bordeaux mixture ,it stops blossom end rot but chemically does it change the copper sulphate or copper change the calcium into a more effective chemical ? I dont think its entering the plant itself just killing spores on the external plant

Hmmm https://www.freepatentsonline.com/2109683.html

Edited August 16, 2021 by chesters1

[Vagabond]

On 8/16/2021 at 9:14 PM, chesters1 said:

,9 varieties of blight "resistant" toms all but one plant dead in 3 days and the one left is looking sick (obviously that one a little more resistant?)! too late to concoct bordeaux mixture  (its banned as is anything else that ever worked garden wise).

 

 

All through this wet summer Norma has been cursing the rain and expecting blight. We are at present harvesting a bumper crop of blight-free plump delicious toms.  What do we gardeners know ?  Mild detergent has been the only anti-blight agent used.

[chesters1]

Lucky git ,prepared to 'sun' dry the bulk (the sun is a dehydrator) and vacuum seal them into small bags and then freeze them ,bought 50 more bags ! By the time they are ripe we may get just enough for a stew lol

Even picked green and unblemished they go off overnight even washing them in milton straight off the bush

One mistake is using 'named' as in the variety and company and but them arriving in plain plastic enve!opes they could be anything ,next year all will bought in pictorial envelopes! You buy in good faith online but take that risk trouble is the local "garden centres" are more like Woolworths today seeds are at the bottom of the list you can probably buy more types of coffee in the cafe than tomato seeds

 

 

Edited August 19, 2021 by chesters1

[Ken L]

21 minutes ago, chesters1 said:

Lucky git ,prepared to 'sun' dry the bulk (the sun is a dehydrator) and vacuum seal them into small bags and then freeze them ,bought 50 more bags ! By the time they are ripe we may get just enough for a stew lol

Even picked green and unblemished they go off overnight even washing them in milton straight off the bush

One mistake is using 'named' as in the variety and company and but them arriving in plain plastic enve!opes they could be anything ,next year all will bought in pictorial envelopes! You buy in good faith online but take that risk trouble is the local "garden centres" are more like Woolworths today seeds are at the bottom of the list you can probably buy more types of coffee in the cafe than tomato seeds

 

 

My folks grow those classic varieties: Sainsbury, Aldi and Tesco.

Basically, they just take seeds from commercial tomatoes in the spring and away they go. They might grow a couple of "Moneymaker" or some other named variety as well, but they generally do okay.