Boris will be OK!!

[corydoras]

18 hours ago, Ken L said:

You don't understand how quotations work either.

As for my politics, both the fascists and the national socialists were/are lefties - the clue is in the name.

My politics are on the right.

The clued is in the name. What rot. By your recconing North Korea is and North Korea are democracies, the clue is in the name.

[corydoras]

On 4/17/2022 at 11:03 PM, Huge_Vitae said:

A Girlfriend!

I don't want or need one of them. Next.

[Ken L]

1 hour ago, corydoras said:

The clued is in the name. What rot. By your recconing North Korea is and North Korea are democracies, the clue is in the name.

"the clue is in the name" but it's only a clue. In reality, it comes down to individualism vs collectivism.

I'll take personal freedoms, limited government self-determination and free markets over a totalitarian government subjugating those freedoms to the needs of the state, the church, the great leader, or the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, any day of the week.

 

[corydoras]

1 minute ago, Ken L said:

"the clue is in the name" but it's only a clue. In reality, it comes down to individualism vs collectivism.

I'll take personal freedoms, limited government self-determination and free markets over a totalitarian government subjugating those freedoms to the needs of the state, the church, the great leader, or the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, any day of the week.

 

Tell us this Ken. What government in what country at what time would suit you?

[Ken L]

23 minutes ago, corydoras said:

Tell us this Ken. What government in what country at what time would suit you?

Nice deflection. Don't you want to talk about political theory?

Reagan's America or Thatcher's Britain would suit me just fine.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Ken L

[corydoras]

1 hour ago, Ken L said:

Nice deflection. Don't you want to talk about political theory?

Reagan's America or Thatcher's Britain would suit me just fine.

The same Thatcher that championed the sinlge market? I kind of hanker after her myslef. She would not have co-erced into a referendum by your favourite goglle eyed loon. That is sure?

What am i deflecting from Ken?

[corydoras]

Thatcher wss right, about many things.

Thatcher was right about referendums.

[Ken L]

50 minutes ago, corydoras said:

The same Thatcher that championed the sinlge market? I kind of hanker after her myslef. She would not have co-erced into a referendum by your favourite goglle eyed loon. That is sure?

What am i deflecting from Ken?

There's nothing wrong with a "single market". It's entirely consistent with the "free markets" ideal, except insofar as it puts up barriers to trade outside the limited European market.

The same Thatcher that said of the Maastricht Treaty (the foundation treaty of the European Union) that she "could never have signed that Treaty".

You're deflecting from the nature of the left/right political divide, and the fact that "it comes down to individualism vs collectivism".

Collectivism is responsible for all of the greatest evils that this world has ever seen, and in the 20th century, it was political rather than religious collectivism that resulted in the deaths of millions.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Ken L

[corydoras]

17 minutes ago, Ken L said:

There's nothing wrong with a "single market". It's entirely consistent with the "free markets" ideal, except insofar as it puts up barriers to trade outside the limited European market.

The same Thatcher that said of the Maastricht Treaty (the foundation treaty of the European Union) that she "could never have signed that Treaty".

You're deflecting from the nature of the left/right political divide, and the fact that "it comes down to individualism vs collectivism".

Collectivism is responsible for all of the greatest evils that this world has ever seen, and in the 20th century, it was political rather than religious collectivism that resulted in the deaths of millions.

That is just your opinion. At the risk of deflecting once more whay to you think Margaret Hilda Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, DStJ, PC, FRS, HonFRSC would think of the premiership of Mr and Mrs Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson?

I know what the right want, they want more for therselves and less for everyone else. That is what they vote for.

Next you'll be trying to gaslight me into thinking that ANY of those political parasites of any stripe actually care about anything more than getting into power then staying there as long as they can.

[Ken L]

15 minutes ago, corydoras said:

That is just your opinion. At the risk of deflecting once more whay to you think Margaret Hilda Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, DStJ, PC, FRS, HonFRSC would think of the premiership of Mr and Mrs Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson?

I know what the right want, they want more for therselves and less for everyone else. That is what they vote for.

Next you'll be trying to gaslight me into thinking that ANY of those political parasites of any stripe actually care about anything more than getting into power then staying there as long as they can.

Johnson and Sunak are globalist WEF puppets.

They fall a long way short of conservative ideals.

Thatcher would have seen right through them.