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#11 Tigger

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:08 PM

We're at risk of apples and oranges again.
Tip heavy with the balance point where?
I'd always say that I want the rod sligbtly light in the tip with the balance point being my middle finger when I'm holding the rod. Like the pommel of a sword, this makes it easier to move the tip around.

 

 

The balance point will always be well above the reel seat even with the reel at it's furthest up the handle.   If the balance point is to far down the rod it would feel very strange and not comfortable at all. 



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:27 PM

I thought you designed the balance point about 4 to 6 inches above the butt so that when holding the rod at the reel the end of the butt came up, lightly, under the elbow.



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

I thought you designed the balance point about 4 to 6 inches above the butt so that when holding the rod at the reel the end of the butt came up, lightly, under the elbow.

 

 

That's right BB, tip heavy, imagine it the rod was butt heavy, it would be very awkward to use, you'd have constant pressure on yer wrist trying to keep the tip down.



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:22 PM

All,

 

Yup, Tigger and I have rod and reel the same.  However, our way is not cast in stone.  Some anglers like neutral and some even butt heavy.

 

The point is - always the same.

 

I have (had) a couple Fenwick E-glass rods that I always fished with 17lb mono line.  That too made a difference.

 

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 06:14 PM

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Yup, Tigger and I have rod and reel the same.  However, our way is not cast in stone.  Some anglers like neutral and some even butt heavy.
 
The point is - always the same.
 
I have (had) a couple Fenwick E-glass rods that I always fished with 17lb mono line.  That too made a difference.
 
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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:26 PM

Long terms members will be aware that I have a muscle condition that means that on some days I don't have the strength to pick up a rod let alone use it.  So for me it's vital I don't find a rod tiring to use, and I'm therefore more acutely aware of balance than others.

 

In my rod building days I tried a rod that I made to balance at the reel seat as commonly recommended.  I actually found this more tiring to use.  This was because the rod acted a bit like a see-saw. 

 

So I'd suggest that you use a rod that balances a little bit higher than the reel seat.  If it's OK for me it's likely to OK for the able-bodied.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:45 PM

Long terms members will be aware that I have a muscle condition that means that on some days I don't have the strength to pick up a rod let alone use it.  So for me it's vital I don't find a rod tiring to use, and I'm therefore more acutely aware of balance than others.

 

In my rod building days I tried a rod that I made to balance at the reel seat as commonly recommended.  I actually found this more tiring to use.  This was because the rod acted a bit like a see-saw. 

 

So I'd suggest that you use a rod that balances a little bit higher than the reel seat.  If it's OK for me it's likely to OK for the able-bodied.

 

 Within reason, I've found that balance is more important than weight. I've found, as most have said, a pivot point just above the reel, is best, I've found around 2 to 3inches suits me. My old 13ft milbro enterprise, was very tip heavy, and I had to put about 6 or 7oz of lead in the butt to get the balance that suited me. This was back in the days when you could be stood up trotting for the whole of a  5-6 hour river match, even with the extra weight, the rod handled, and felt much better. The only match fishing equivalent I can think of today, except using a pole, is using a pellet waggler, and most of those rods are around 11ft.

 

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