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I use several differant lines but my favourite one is Sensor. It's funny really as it looks brown in the daylight but at nigh in torch light it looks green...ask Lutra/Brian one night while we where Tench fishing we noticed it. Even though it's brown it's only a shade and in water it's even less brown. You can get clear sensor but I think it's only in 8lb upwards. line test chart As you can see sensor is pretty good. The 4lb is good enough to use as a hooklenght as it's true to it's stated diameter and breaks well above it.

A couple of years back I spotted some barbel in the process of spawning. A hen fish accompanied by one or two others (I would imagine males) where wriggling into the gravel alongside one another spawning and as they did so some of their eggs/roe along with some silt etc where floating away in the pretty strong current. As the eggs floated off other barbel kept on shooting past from the sidelines and nabbing them. Occassionally the fish actually spawning would spin round and start to eat the eggs also ! They must have tasted ok to them. It is funny as all fish seem to love eating the roe of other fish or even their own. Just think how well you'd do using it as bait.

I reckon the fish farmers should be strapped to a ducking stool and treated like Witches Scary fact is these people have no interest in the fish or wildlife, it's just money to them and bugger the wildlife so long as they make their cash without haveing to spend on fences etc. I can't weigh up how people can have the front to moan about a true native creature eating a few fish when half the population have cats and let them run riot all over the country and kill as much precious wildlife as they want without batting an eye. It was bloody cats that robbed a neighbours pet fish in their garden pond !!

The grass carp was introduced to try and munch the weed down a bit in certain waters...lancaster canal for one, but they stop eating weed when they get a bit bigger anyhow so there not really much good at the job. I haven't ever seen a problem with carp eating all the weed in a pond/water. I think carp actually lay their eggs in weed so they'd be shootin themselves in the foot if they munched out all the weed

Right, thank's for that Richard.

I've bought some of the muddy waters bobbins (ptfe) and have just realised that you have to buy the chain/cord and attachments seperate. The thing is I don't want their chain, I just want the screw for the bottom of the bobbin to add my own cord. Has anyone got any idea where I can get them ? I don't know but I would imagine the thread size is the same as other bobbins.

I fish the ribble and there are some members on AN who know the river inside out and have fished it most of their lives and I would imagine none of them have caught more than a handfull of carp in there if any at all over many years of fishing it. We know that they're present but not in an ammount to cause a problem to other species. Lets face it they've been present in the ribble for many years and haven't exactly "bred like rats", and if they have all they've done is provide a food source for other species of fish as I've never seen any offspring swimming about. The only way carp can turn a water into a mud hole as you say is if they are put into a water in large ammounts/overstocked otherwise they wouldn't be a problem...well in my opinion. I know waters that are crystal clear, full of weed and wildlife and abundant in lots of fish species that contain carp. By the way trying to catch one of them is no easy task !

Well done ........................................now where's mine !

I know which I'd sooner of caught when I was a kid and it wouldn't have been little gudgeon etc. Regarding overstocking established ponds etc then that's up to the owner how they stock it wether you or I like it or not. I'd prefer people to build purpose made puddles to fish for their stockies rather than spoiling natural waters by overloading them with carp or any other species for that matter........ but that's life, and it certainley ain't the carps fault.

Here's one on the bay 300389707816

I reckon the fish that would least bother the majority of anglers would be Catfish and/or sturgeon. Lets face it there arn't really that many waters containing them and not that many anglers who target them. I can't understand people who dislike carp, I love em even though I rarley target them. They are also enjoyed by the majority of anglers so where the hate comes in beats me.

Check these out budgie 250570030351.............250570030165 I know there not the metal lipped ones but if they go cheap enough they might be worth a stab. I suppose if you keep your eye out you'll get the 6010 spools anyway.

Depends on the area where you live really. Not really much point in nameing a river 2hrs drive away.

Budgie I have two (well, had two 8010's just gave them to my m8) and I had several 6010 spools which fitted them perfectly. I think the later 6000gte's and 8000gte's fit one another also.

Budgie, 8010's will fit perfectly the spools are exactly the same but deeper to hold more line. I'd say your best bet's ebay, there's usually some on there for auction. This might be ok 180460359742 {Just made your link 'live' - Elton}

A 125 yrds spool of Berkley fireline Crystal in 10lb breaking strain, loved by some, hated by others including me. If anyones interested they can have it for a tenner including post.

Unfortunatly I'm not going to the Itchen Budgie. I have used braid (power pro) before trotting for grayling on the river Eden on several occassions and appart from the horrible sound it was ok. I used it with a 18 inch mono bottom attached via a micro swivel. Even though I haven't used the Fire line Crystal and have only looked at it and felt it I just dislike it an awfull lot. To me it feels gritty(unlike power pro which is smooth) and it deffo isn't translucant as is advertised. It looks like white cotton in and out of water. Also it is no way as thin as 2lb mono as stated .....it's just not for me....I hate the stuff lol. In future if useing braid I'll stick with power pro. Obviously some people love it and that's great if it works for them. If anyones after a spool of fireline crystal, 125yds in 10lb give me a shout !

Especially if it's livin at my house

Jeepster, I think your right, I'm just getting wound up everytime I think about it. Maybe it's healthier to just try and forget it. I was talking to a trainee Barrister the other day and he said the uk border force was only started about two years ago and meant to control immigrants coming into the uk. He went on to say they where just a rush job for this purpose and have now got ideas above their station and are interfeering in other buisness they really shouldn't be involved in. It seems totally out of order that they can just steal perfectly legal property for no reason appart from trying to justify them keeping their jobs ! Thank's to everyone who's tryed to advise.

Both 6 BB's just for the sake of argument.

Well, I've just had a letter back from the UK Border agency after sending them a letter asking for my knife back and explaing in it that the knife is NOT a flick/gravity knife and also enclosing a photo copy of a shop selling the knife online in the uk (one of many)as a example to show there not illegal here in the uk. They replied saying that the knife is illegal and any shops selling it in the uk are doing so illegally ! There not giving it back to me! If I want to continue I've got to get a solicitor and go to court in London ! To say the least I'm very

You do know you can get a crimminal record for that kind of thing these days George

Rusty, if no one wants it then I'll most likely finnish up trying it out sometime. In the future though I'll be sticking to sensor in 4 and 6lb for most of my trotting. It just does nothing for me whatsoever but I suppose for some it might suite them perfectly.

I've just received a spool of the stuff this morning and in all honesty I wish i hadn't bothered getting it. Well that's my first impression. Rather than feeling smooth it feels gritty to me and has the same feel as very fine wire. I also think someones got the diameter wrong as it looks much thicker than stated. I got 10lb, rated as being the same diameter as 4lb mono. When I put it next to 4lb mono it looked like a thick peice of white string. Regarding being invisable in water, well to me it's about as invisable as white cotton and not translucent at all. If anyone wants to buy a spool cheap mines for sale.

That doesn't sound to good does it ? Power pro was smooth without knobles etc. I know it's a different make but I would have thought the braids are meant to be smooth. Maybe Chris Plumb can tell you if it's normal. Are the blobbs all along the line?