working whats the point?

[hembo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7816500.stm

 

 

very depressing to read and listen to.whats the answer ,stop their benefits?how do you inspire this generation when you have short term contracts,beck and call job agencies.

[Andy_1984]

their right about one thing. the job centre SUCKS! they passed me to some other company for help (working links) because all they do is sign your payment book ask if you found work, you reply no they say ok try harder! bye bye.

 

it wasnt until i was out of work for so long that they reffered me to "Working links" who done more for me. i didnt have a clue about anything when i left school at the age of 16 (or rather kicked out) i didnt know where to go what to do or how to go about it like college.

 

working links helped me get the information i needed, they got some fancy clothes on my back from slaters and driving lessons cause i was looking for a driving job, sat with me and helped me understand the working world done checks to see which job might be sutiable for a person like myself and more.

 

in the end the owner of property matters (letting agents) who i knew for a while through one of his grocery shops wanted a website designed for property matters and knew i done web design through talking to him in the grocers so i took it up and from there i done viewings with my newly accquired driving license thanks to working links and now im the manager.

[Steve Walker]

I wonder if they would still be unable to find anything if the activities of working and eating were not so disconnected?

 

I know people who have claimed to be unable to find work since the 80's, and others who (despite living in the same area and having the same opportunities) have always worked. It's always somebody else's fault.

 

People have been coming to this country to work from the former Eastern bloc. I refuse to believe that these two couldn't find work if they wanted to enough - even if it meant moving.

[Elton]

Steve,

 

Are you suggesting that certain people get off their lazy fat arses, take responsibility for their own lives and actually go out and look for work?

 

That's a radical concept. I can never see it catching on in the UK. Unfortunately

[Steve Walker]

Heaven forbid!

 

I know some people have difficulties - several years after moving house, my stepfather is still commuting from Blackpool to his old job in Manchester because he can't find anything locally - but he's nearly 60, and if he didn't have the job in Manchester he wouldn't be too proud to take whatever he could find locally. 20-somethings drifting through a life of daytime TV, dope and dole at my expense is another matter entirely.

[Vagabond]

Norman Tebbit once said if his dad had been out of work he'd have been on his bike looking for work a bit sharpish.

 

The orchestrated hate campaign that resulted still reverberates to this day.

[ColinW]

There is something wrong with a country where the 24 year old man in that report can get so fat on the dole that he now looks physically incapable of working! Maybe, after a few months, benefits should switch to community work like street cleaning or gardening for OAPs. There seems to be plenty of work round my area that needs doing but that the council can't or won't pay to have done!

[poledark]

Dead right Colin, what I can't understand is why they don't do the same work that the immigrants do? If the immigrants can find work, then so can they. Or why they are not MADE to do the same work. We do have a minimum wage don't we?

 

Den

[Steve Walker]

Den, the usual excuse is that they'd be worse off financially if they worked. Setting aside the idea that if that's true, the benefits system is broken, nobody ever adds "but at least by working I won't be poncing off other people who are doing the right thing"

[Puzzled]

I kinda had a bit of sympathy for their situation up to the point at which it was indicated that what little money they had was needed to buy tobacco and phone top ups.

 

Get your priorities right please!