Can you identify these fish ?

[The Gardon Hunter]

Hello

We've been fishing on a small pond in France today and caught these two odd looking fish. They are both about 7" long and they did fight well for their size. Any ideas on what type they are please.

[norfolkfisher]

They look sort of like small crucians but then again they don't. Maybe hybrids of some sort?

[Gone Fishin]

I'd hazard a guess at Roach/Bream hybrids

[Newt]

The dorsal fin on the right hand (golden) fish is very interesting and like nothing I can ever remember seeing.

[gozzer]

The one on the left looks to me like a 'brown' goldfish or crucian cross.

 

I've seen a fish with a distinctive dorsal fin like the one on the right, but can't for the life of me remember where. I've been looking on the net to try and find it but had no luck so far.

I would have thought one of the fish keepers on here would recognise it.

 

John.

[Ken L]

Goldfish.

[medwaygreen]

Yes brown goldfish.

 

See these, they are better examples.

 

 

I think the dorsal fin on the RH fish is a genetic malfunction?

Edited May 20, 2008 by medwaygreen

[bluerinse]

Hello

We've been fishing on a small pond in France today and caught these two odd looking fish. They are both about 7" long and they did fight well for their size. Any ideas on what type they are please.

 

 

I caught this last week and presumed it was a baby carp (I have never seen a baby carp in the venue before)

 

I presume Im right?

[Vagabond]

I think the dorsal fin on the RH fish is a genetic malfunction?

Either that, or it has suffered an injury which removed the middle portion of the dorsal fin (there is still a rear bit showing)

 

 

Best identification would be "Goldfish mongrel"

These particular fish came from France, but commercials here in Britain are increasingly becoming over-run with mongrel brown goldfish/carp/crucian/ hybrids or whatever fish hatcheries can unload on the owners and punters.

 

Nobody (except perhaps me and Gozzer ) seems to care. "Its still a fish innit"

Edited May 20, 2008 by Vagabond

[Vagabond]

Yes brown goldfish.

 

See these, they are better examples.

 

Your fish look much more like crucians - look at the steep angle of the lower jaw.

 

Brown goldfish have much more "carp-like" jaws .

 

Also, compare the large number of small scales on your fish with the fewer, larger scales on Gardon Hunter's.

 

BTW if anyone thinks Gardon Hunter can't spell - Gardon is French for "roach"

Edited May 20, 2008 by Vagabond