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Out of curisosity Dales, the "Good Uns" you have caught, what size were they?

 

Cheers,

 

Stu...

 

The best have been 3.01, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04, 3.05, 3.06 & 4 lb :D Plus a few hundred 2 pounders including a few at 2.15 lb :D . But to me any Perch over a pound is a good un.

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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In my opinion they are mostly myth.

 

There are plenty of big perch around these days. But all this talk of 4-5lb perch all over the place...well sorry to be a cynic and a misery, but unless you've had one on the mat or seen one caught and properly weighed, it doesn't mean anything!

 

4lb+ perch are enormous. 5lb+ perch are unbelieveably rare. A 3lber will be a fish of a lifetime for the vast majority of us, even if we fish waters that do hold bigger fish. A 3lb perch is a seriously big fish.

 

Don't fall for the old trick of a water 'containing perch to over 4lb' either. There are several gravel pits near me that claim to hold 'pike to 30lb+' because years ago they held one very big pike that got caught lots of times and has been dead for years...

 

I am sure that 2s and 3s are a lot more common than they used to be. But 4s and 5s...hmmm!

 

(And even if a lake or river does hold fish of that size - you still have to catch them!)

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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My PB perch of 2lb 14oz came from a very small and secluded local lake, supposedly club members only but not policed very well so every man and boy tries their luck when they think they can get away with it...

 

I caught it on a piece of string that had fallen into my bait box after I'd run out of maggots...coated in Liquid Worm and cast in with no hope of catching...just a desperate last cast before I gave up after a full day of blanking.

 

I have absolutely no doubt that there are much larger specimens in there...I've seen them, but failed dismally to catch any...

 

Janet

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I also meant to say that of all the species in the UK, perch is the one that is by far the most often mis-weighed or not weighed at all. So much so that I'm afraid I now discount almost all claimed weights of big perch unless it's from someone I actually know and trust, or there is very good photographic evidence.

 

For example, arbocop's superb perch posted on here a few days ago - it looks every ounce of the claimed weight!

 

The 4lb 3oz perch on the Korum page linked to earlier...well, if I knew him and trusted him I might believe him...

 

I've seen it on the web, in the mags and on the bank. It's funny how many '4lb perch' actually weigh about half that :rolleyes:

 

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Have a look at the '3.8' here: http://www.homefarmfisheries.net/gallery.htm 5th row down:

 

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ANOTHER EDIT: Here's a genuine 2.15: 13092009166.jpg

Edited by Anderoo

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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Cheers Austin, I might go take a look at that in the coming weeks! :)

 

Well i am going to try and slope down tomorrow for a few hours and as for the irn bru goundbait as this is corby i suggest special brew ;)

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In my opinion they are mostly myth.

 

There are plenty of big perch around these days. But all this talk of 4-5lb perch all over the place...well sorry to be a cynic and a misery, but unless you've had one on the mat or seen one caught and properly weighed, it doesn't mean anything!

 

4lb+ perch are enormous. 5lb+ perch are unbelieveably rare. A 3lber will be a fish of a lifetime for the vast majority of us, even if we fish waters that do hold bigger fish. A 3lb perch is a seriously big fish.

 

Don't fall for the old trick of a water 'containing perch to over 4lb' either. There are several gravel pits near me that claim to hold 'pike to 30lb+' because years ago they held one very big pike that got caught lots of times and has been dead for years...

 

I am sure that 2s and 3s are a lot more common than they used to be. But 4s and 5s...hmmm!

 

(And even if a lake or river does hold fish of that size - you still have to catch them!)

Good post was saying the same thing with Steve on Sunday ,3lb Perch are still big very big in fact, it`s easy to get carried away with the captures of the Ouse/Thames/ wherever and think 4lb plus fish is the new benchmark .

Wetted my appetite now and hope to get out both days this weekend Steve.

We are not putting it back it is a lump now put that curry down and go and get the scales

have I told you abouit the cruise control on my Volvo ,,,,,,,bla bla bla Barder rod has it come yet?? and don`t even start me on Chris Lythe :bleh::icecream:

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Good post was saying the same thing with Steve on Sunday ,3lb Perch are still big very big in fact, it`s easy to get carried away with the captures of the Ouse/Thames/ wherever and think 4lb plus fish is the new benchmark .

Wetted my appetite now and hope to get out both days this weekend Steve.

 

I think 3lb Perch are HUGE!

 

Does the weight of Perch depend on the ''Sex'' of the fish? We had a Perch of 1lb 3oz the other week, and then caught a Perch that was marginally under 1lb... Yet the one that weighed less was literally about a third longer than its bigger rival.

 

We did check the scales and they are digital/accurate. So I assume maybe its the sex/build of the fish that often counts? Not so much the size?

 

This may contribute to the ''added weights'' which people make up. They weigh one, it weighs 3lb... If the next one is larger in size it ''Must!'' be a 4lb-er!

 

Clearly not the case!

Species Caught 2011: Mirror Carp, Barbel, Ide, Rudd, Roach, Bleak, Perch, Bream,

 

Species Caught 2010: Perch, Pike, Roach, Rudd, Bleak, Bream, Gudgeon, Ruffe, Ide, Tench, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Barbel, Chub, F1, Crusian Carp, Goldfish

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