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  1. 1. Should Summer Piking be banned

    • Yes - Ban For Dead Baiting
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    • Yes - Ban for Live Baiting Only
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    • Yes - Ban for Lure Fishing
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    • No
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  2. 2. Who should make decisions on any Pike Season

    • Venue Owner or Club etc
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    • Government Agency EA etc
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    • Angling Trust
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    • PAC
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    • Individual Angler
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  3. 3. Does anyone Pike fish in the Summer?

    • Yes with Dead baits
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    • Yes with Lures
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    • Yes with Live baits
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    • No
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    • Used to but no longer
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    • Would like to but dont as feel pressured its wrong
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Of course this is going to put backs up. It can be viewed as some anglers saying, 'we can go fishing, but you can't'..seriously it feels like that, here one may pike fish in winter and if skilful/knowledgeable/lucky enough catch sometimes. However I don't know anyone who would fish here only in winter, I don't believe it would be worth buying the tackle or taking out a permit.

 

'Anglers are quite sure that fish are harmed by being caught' is how some would see this and it can't be helpful for angling.

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For it's worth I am not calling for restrictions on when anglers should be allowed to fish for Pike and our freinds in the north might be interested to know that down here in the south many clubs and venues do in fact set a predator season for what ever reason. I would hate to see your fishing effected by such restrictions as even threads concerning some anglers looking forward to starting some Piking around October are normaly greated by an attack that it is not Pike season, blah, blah, blah.

 

Well anyway enjoy your Pike fishing when ever you choose to fish for them.

 

So lets start a proper angling thread. Which do you prefer red or yellow boilies?

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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When I use the terms 'pike season', 'chub season', 'perch season', etc. all it means is the time of year when I fish for those species. It's not trying to force restrictions on anyone else. If I lived elsewhere, the times of year would change to suit the term.

 

When I lived in Norfolk, 'pike season' started in October and ended in March. Now, October to Christmas is 'perch season', and January to March is 'chub season'. 'Tench season' used to be 16 June to as long as I could keep catching them, now it is from April to mid-June. July to September/October was always my 'carp season', but in recent years it has been my 'bream season'.

 

People can fish for whatever they like, whenever they like as far as I'm concerned, so long as they're not causing any harm, and call it whatever they like! If they are causing harm, it's the angler that needs help, not more blanket restrictions added to an increasingly legislated pastime.

 

EDIT: posted at the same time as Dales. Dales - this week, red boilies are better than yellow boilies ;)

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Well anyway enjoy your Pike fishing when ever you choose to fish for them.

 

So lets start a proper angling thread. Which do you prefer red or yellow boilies?

 

 

I think thats very discriminatory against colour blind anglers.

 

I think the packaging should be improved to clearly state the colour so those that suffer can clearly see what other anglers are using and buying and the boilies should be marked accordingly. :D:D

 

John

 

p.s. are there any good threads these days about catching fish or improving skills.

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I think thats very discriminatory against colour blind anglers.

 

I think the packaging should be improved to clearly state the colour so those that suffer can clearly see what other anglers are using and buying and the boilies should be marked accordingly. :D:D

 

John

 

Very true but what would we discuss if you could all clearly know and agree what colour the boilies are?

 

 

p.s. are there any good threads these days about catching fish or improving skills.

 

No

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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I think thats very discriminatory against colour blind anglers.

 

I think the packaging should be improved to clearly state the colour so those that suffer can clearly see what other anglers are using and buying and the boilies should be marked accordingly. :D:D

 

John

 

p.s. are there any good threads these days about catching fish or improving skills.

 

:lol:

 

PS head's up lads - I've seen an advance copy of next week's 'Carp Advertiser' magazine, and next week they will prefer yellow boilies. There's an order line number in the mag, get some in quick or else you won't BAG UP.

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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I'm glad nobody's suggesting a ban, (although the thread title suggests different), we have too many stupid rules as it is.

 

Oh, and the colour of my 'boilies', are only of interest to me, my doctor, and the wife.

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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I'm glad nobody's suggesting a ban, (although the thread title suggests different), we have too many stupid rules as it is.

 

I do regret using the word ban in the title of the thread, not that it really matters as we have plenty of wannabe moderators who can decide what we should and should not talk about :D

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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However I don't know anyone who would fish here only in winter, I don't believe it would be worth buying the tackle or taking out a permit

 

Especially the last three Winters when the big lakes were frozen over for several weeks and the gales of this year coinciding with your free time.

 

Out of interest , do you know of anyone locally who regularly catches perch between October & March in the lakes

 

For it's worth I am not calling for restrictions on when anglers should be allowed to fish for Pike and our freinds in the north might be interested to know that down here in the south many clubs and venues do in fact set a predator season for what ever reason.

 

I appreciate your own views, and am aware of the restrictions on private venues in other areas. Can't say whether I agree with them or not because I don't know the facts behind them.

 

When I use the terms 'pike season', 'chub season', 'perch season', etc. all it means is the time of year when I fish for those species. It's not trying to force restrictions on anyone else. If I lived elsewhere, the times of year would change to suit the term.

 

When I lived in Norfolk, 'pike season' started in October and ended in March. Now, October to Christmas is 'perch season', and January to March is 'chub season'. 'Tench season' used to be 16 June to as long as I could keep catching them, now it is from April to mid-June. July to September/October was always my 'carp season', but in recent years it has been my 'bream season'.

 

People can fish for whatever they like, whenever they like as far as I'm concerned, so long as they're not causing any harm, and call it whatever they like! If they are causing harm, it's the angler that needs help, not more blanket restrictions added to an increasingly legislated pastime.

 

I agree with your last comment completely. and you bring attention to the difference in coarse angling across the UK. For instance most of the Norfolk species you mention are not readily available to us up here, there are no coarse fish rivers to speak of , and although the lakes are teeming with perch in summer when a live minnow used to sort the bigger ones out, but due to our bait restrictions this is no longer possible also they seem to shoal up and disappear after October.

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I agree with your last comment completely. and you bring attention to the difference in coarse angling across the UK. For instance most of the Norfolk species you mention are not readily available to us up here, there are no coarse fish rivers to speak of , and although the lakes are teeming with perch in summer when a live minnow used to sort the bigger ones out, but due to our bait restrictions this is no longer possible also they seem to shoal up and disappear after October.

 

If livebaits are banned and you have access to a boat, why not try drop-shotting? I bet that would sort those perch out.

 

I think we all understand that what you fish for and when you fish for them is largely dictated by where you live, and how far you're prepared to travel.

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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