do as we tell you

[Vagabond]

That sounds more like philosophy than science.

Maybe - who can tell where science ends and philosophy begins ? Certainly not our seats of learning, who award a scientific researcher with a higher degree called Doctor of Philosophy.

If I were God

Steady now ! There are men in white coats......

 

...... pluck the Earth out of the Solar system, all the planets and other bodies orbiting the sun with the exception of our moon would trundle on with only minor adjustments to there orbital paths. Take the Sun out of the picture and there would be no solar system, there would be nothing for the planets to orbit around.

Thats a bit like saying that if you plucked a rivet out of the Forth Bridge nothing much would happen, but if you plucked a girder out you might do serious local damage.

 

It doesn't really matter if Bobj is "upside down". He's an astronomer, we get used to seeing the universe upside down.

Which is why I am a bit surprised that you don't see that Ptolemy is not "wrong" - the simplest analogy I can think of is the "reversed clocks" running anti-clockwise which some pubs have as a novelty. They tell the time perfectly well, although at first glance they appear "wrong"

 

 

...and Phone, I would support Cory re "off topic" - many of ANs most interesting discussions have been the result of someone going off topic.

 

Besides, who is to say what is or is not relevant? (or for that matter, what is or is not relative) - perhaps the Eurozone's troubles are a result of the Greeks (and many others?) metaphorically "walking about upside down"

[barry luxton]

This french geek should ralley his pals and throw both greece and the uk out then, sorted.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...and-Europe.html

 

quote: They accused Mr Sarkozy of having ‘contempt’ for Britain and democracy.

Tory MP Philip Davies said: ‘This just shows what the project is all about. President Sarkozy is not interested in what we have to say. He is only interested in getting his hands on our money. He’s behaving like the new Charles de Gaulle, another French leader who didn’t want us in Europe. But I’m right behind him. I don’t want us in the EU either.’

 

 

In an extraordinary outburst, Mr Berlusconi said that life in Italy has got worse since the introduction of the single currency more than a decade ago.

 

‘Italians have been impoverished since the introduction of the euro,’ he said.

Edited November 7, 2011 by barry luxton

[Andrew]

If I were God and I could pluck the Earth out of the Solar system,

 

An interesting thing to say ??

Which God would that be.

[Andrew]

This french geek should ralley his pals and throw both greece and the uk out then, sorted.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...and-Europe.html

 

quote: They accused Mr Sarkozy of having ‘contempt’ for Britain and democracy.

Tory MP Philip Davies said: ‘This just shows what the project is all about. President Sarkozy is not interested in what we have to say. He is only interested in getting his hands on our money. He’s behaving like the new Charles de Gaulle, another French leader who didn’t want us in Europe. But I’m right behind him. I don’t want us in the EU either.’

 

 

In an extraordinary outburst, Mr Berlusconi said that life in Italy has got worse since the introduction of the single currency more than a decade ago.

 

‘Italians have been impoverished since the introduction of the euro,’ he said.

 

 

Lets vote to stay in just to annoy this fella. He may even resign.

[barry luxton]

Do like this bit as well, when he 'spoke' to cameron:

 

‘You have lost a good opportunity to shut up,’ he said.

 

 

 

and i thought us lot were good, these are top draw 'p' takers.

Edited November 7, 2011 by barry luxton

[Ken L]

Back on topic.

 

I see Dave has just promissed £40 billion to the IMF for use in supporting the Euro.

 

There are 33 million working people in Great Britain.

 

Anyone got a calculator ?

[Andrew]

Maybe we should with hold any payments we have been ordered to make to them.

Just imagine what we as a nation could do.

 

There was a top enonomist on the BBC this morning, a very interesting interview. We should look further than the EU to do business. He then went on to mention countries with an economic growth rate wich is far greater than the EU.

 

The EU rulers think they are the be all and end all.

As for Charles de Gaulle, who gave him refuge when he needed it ? Erm, was it Great Britain.

[Andrew]

Back on topic.

 

I see Dave has just promissed £40 billion to the IMF for use in supporting the Euro.

 

There are 33 million working people in Great Britain.

 

Anyone got a calculator ?

 

Thats good of the man, But then again he has been known to break his promises.

[barry luxton]

This is what the e u are good at, even during a conflict, business as usual.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15597675

 

it finds that last year 140% more bluefin meat from the Med entered the market than was reported as caught.

Edited November 7, 2011 by barry luxton

[corydoras]

An interesting thing to say ??

Which God would that be.

It was a Gedankenexperiment, a thought experiment. I could have said "as if by magic" instead of God. I wasn't being religious.