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Colin Brett

By Colin Brett
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Martin Bowler is discussing the otter problem with a guy called Gary Schofield.

 

Makes you proud to be an angler.

 

Hopefully he will point out that it's his and a few other narrow minded individuals views and not all anglers. But as a self appointed spokesman he does have the right to speak for all anglers.

Stephen

 

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Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
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Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
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Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
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Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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3kane,

 

Is your implication in the context of a "commercial fishery"? I've seen a number of UK articles with what appears to be your view from "pond bosses" (that's what we call a pond owned by and used for specific purposes). Not once can I find your preceived opinion where that "view" is in open public waters.

 

If I were a pond boss I could see a very possible problem with otters. Not to mention a problem my blood pressure if they were damaging my livestock.

 

Two very different subjects. Which one are you addressing?

 

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In all seriousness I think it depends on what part of the country you live in and the waters you fish as to whether you see Otters as a problem or not. Down here in Dorset they are very prolific and the local angling websites are full of talk of them. I guess in some parts of the country where they aren't as prolific one would probably have a different opinion of them.

 

Having said that I remember it wasn't that many years ago when everyone was moaning about Cormorants decimating fisheries and all the weeklies were full of Anti-cormorant propagander. Indeed it seemed every angling 'celeb' had an opinion on them and some were strongly implying to a point just shy of condoning illegal shooting of them .

 

I wonder then if Cormorants have suddenly retired from fishing and are no longer an impact on fisheries? Or maybe we've found another scapegoat to point the finger at. Which makes one wonder who or what we'll be pointing the finger at next.

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In all seriousness I think it depends on what part of the country you live in and the waters you fish as to whether you see Otters as a problem or not. Down here in Dorset they are very prolific and the local angling websites are full of talk of them. I guess in some parts of the country where they aren't as prolific one would probably have a different opinion of them.

 

Having said that I remember it wasn't that many years ago when everyone was moaning about Cormorants decimating fisheries and all the weeklies were full of Anti-cormorant propagander. Indeed it seemed every angling 'celeb' had an opinion on them and some were strongly implying to a point just shy of condoning illegal shooting of them .

 

I wonder then if Cormorants have suddenly retired from fishing and are no longer an impact on fisheries? Or maybe we've found another scapegoat to point the finger at. Which makes one wonder who or what we'll be pointing the finger at next.

It has nothing to do with where one lives. It's ones attitude to wildlife in general and predators in particular.

The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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frogger,

 

I'm inclined to keep all the excuses I can muster. I'm a terrible angler. Somewhere I have a list of the top 100 humorous excuses for a blank session. I'll see if I can locate it. I know the American Bald Eagle and Black Bears are on it.

 

I do think it's "fair" for encapsulated commercial venues in private or semi-private ownership to biytch. They should be offered a solution that includes "whatever it takes" (on their property).

 

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So, back to the post that started this thread - did anyone watch the program and what was it like? I don't live in the region it aired so wasn't able to watch myself.

 

Frogger

 

Here's last nights programme on i player, nothing there about otters. :unsure:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017l...est_21_11_2011/

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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:lol::lol::lol:;);)

 

Den

"When through the woods and forest glades I wanderAnd hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees;When I look down from lofty mountain grandeur,And hear the brook, and feel the breeze;and see the waves crash on the shore,Then sings my soul..................

for all you Spodders. https://youtu.be/XYxsY-FbSic

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