British values?

[Steve Walker]

Personally, I don't believe religion belongs in schools at all, but I accept that some parents want that, and they pay their taxes too. Just so long as religious views are not allowed to contradict either things we have objectively proven to be true or values which we require our secular schools to uphold. I don't believe Catholic schools should be allowed to teach hatred of homosexuals any more than I think Islamic schools should, for instance. Islam is getting more flack because conservative Islamic values are further out of step with progressive Western values than those of most UK Christian organisations - though I have no doubt that there are people who would like to teach fire and brimstone and the literal truth of Genesis.

Edited June 11, 2014 by Steve Walker

[Emma two]

What happened to the famous Fish and chips? I go in most chip shops now and you wait until he slaps bit of fish in raw and it cooks on a low heat and you end up with a soggy bit of old cardboard.

I remember standing in a que half way round a corner waiting for fresh cooked with crispy batter and fresh fish. Damn these immigrants and the stupid euro lot for taking away chips in newspaper ,it has never been the same since and you can say that it was re-cycling too which is a good thing we are told

French fries are immigrants and all the other takeaways . I would stand as bring back the proper fish and chip party and i bet i would get more votes than the liberal democrats for sure...LOL

Fish an' chips were almost certainly brought to us by immigrants...it's Jewish stuff reported by food historians to have been introduced by refugees from Portugal and Spain. first served up over here in the East End of London.

[Emma two]

Personally, I don't believe religion belongs in schools

 

Nor I.

[rob.imk2]

Nor I.

Personally I wish it wasnt taught anywhere

[Emma two]

Personally I wish it wasnt taught anywhere

Yes, that too.

[chesters1]

Fish an' chips were almost certainly brought to us by immigrants...it's Jewish stuff reported by food historians to have been introduced by refugees from Portugal and Spain. first served up over here in the East End of London.

Difficult to pin down exactly ,chipped potatoes can only go back to lizzi 1 unless south americans had them?

Modern fish as in modern fish and chips can only go back as a common meal in london to when the railways were introduced but on the coast perhaps further .

Fish in medieval times was probably coarse fish and i have no doubt frying in egg and flour common to at least hide the taste but ofcourse fish as in fish and chips is deep fried ,whether deep frying is common in medieval times is unknown (to me) but battering one of the few ways to hold a fish together deep frying so could go back an awful long way.

The pairing of deep fried fish and chips probably is the key

Edited June 17, 2014 by chesters1

[Dave H]

Fish an' chips were almost certainly brought to us by immigrants...it's Jewish stuff reported by food historians to have been introduced by refugees from Portugal and Spain. first served up over here in the East End of London.

 

Well how about the good Sunday roast please don’t tell me that is Iranian or French or my grandfather will turn in his grave and if German he will rise from it.

[corydoras]

Well how about the good Sunday roast please don’t tell me that is Iranian or French or my grandfather will turn in his grave and if German he will rise from it.

I don't know who Invented it but I am afraid that your Grandfather would be hard pressed to find any difference between a traditional French Sunday roast and an English one. If it's beef it won't have Yorkshire pudding with it, but roast pork, roast leg or rack of lamb, roast beef, roast chicken, roast duck or Guinea Fowl are all firm favourites for Sunday lunch or Sunday dinner in France.

 

The main difference is that it will always come with loads of wine, better cheeses and more tempting desserts. The cheeseboard and the dessert are my favourite bits especially if it is Tarte aux Fraises. Yum yum.

 

[Steve Walker]

If you go back to the 18th Century, the French used to envy our rosbif - we acquired a nickname, they acquired a culinary style.

[corydoras]

If you go back to the 18th Century, the French used to envy our rosbif - we acquired a nickname, they acquired a culinary style.

I doubt that "envy" is the correct word, I also doubt that the French had not thought of chucking a bit of meat or a fowl in the oven prior to the 1700s. The English word "roast" comes from Old Fremch "rostir" and they got it from Old High German via the Franks. It seems kinda funny to me that people would have a word for something they didn't do.

 

The term "rosbif" is pretty derogatory in French. Anyone that calls me a "rosbif" will get a pretty harsh gobful thrown back at them.

 

I doubt that any culture can claim that they invented roasting meat. I'd wager that roasting a bit of meat came pretty soon after we discovered how to make fire.

Edited June 19, 2014 by corydoras