It's dawning on people at last

[gozzer]

Here is the full run down from the Dunfermline Parliamentary By-Election.

 

UKIP Scotland 208

SNP 7261

Scottish Christioan Party 411

Abolish Forth Bridge tolls 374

Scottish Socialist Party 537

Scottish Lib Dems 12391

The Common Good 103

Scottish Conservative & Unionists 2702

Scottish Labour Party 10591

 

Electorate 71,017

Number of votes cast 34,613

Rejected papers 35

Majority 1800

Percentage poll 48.74%

 

 

 

The worrying thing about that is the percentage that voted. When a party can get elected when only 15-16% of the electorate vote for them, then something is wrong with the system.

[Jim Roper]

The dockyard is getting run down, although 700 apprentices have been anounced over the next 3 years, some big companies are pulling out of the area or slimlining their work force.

 

Despite us having a Labour MP for a couple of terms now, our largest employer(mine) has just moved it's whole logistics operation to an ex-mining area in Staffordshire.

580 of us made redundant!

[gozzer]

Despite us having a Labour MP for a couple of terms now, our largest employer(mine) has just moved it's whole logistics operation to an ex-mining area in Staffordshire.

580 of us made redundant!

 

Welcome to the club Jim, my last one was the sixth time I've been made redundant. It doesn't get any easier.

Edited February 15, 2006 by gozzer

[argyll]

yeah and who started charging us for first of all...... the tories

 

...and successive Labour administrations had the opportunity to stop charging ...and didnt.

[DavyR]

...and successive Labour administrations had the opportunity to stop charging ...and didnt.

 

Probably would have been howled down by taxpayers claiming that it was too expensive, in much the same way that Ken Livingstone's "Fares' Fair" scheme for making London Transport cheaper was when he was leader of the GLC (before the Tories abolished it). Never mind that people were using public transport far more (and cars proportionally less) whilst it was operational.

 

How did I get on to that?

[Alan Stubbs]

yeah and who started charging us for first of all...... the tories

 

...and successive Labour administrations had the opportunity to stop charging ...and didnt.

 

 

Gerry, for all the hypocrisy uttered in the name of politics, no party is going to cut off a revenue stream if they're running any sort of budgetary deficit. It's easier to keep something in place than to remove and replace it with something else. People IMO tend to overlook the tax abolitions and complain about the imposition of new taxes. That is human nature.

 

It's the same with any government. What angered me with Gordon Brown was the half truths about his taxation ideas. He stressed ad nauseam that the basic rate of income tax would remain unchanged. What he didn't say was that this meant a significant shortfall of income over planned expenditure as a result. There have been more taxes imposed by the Labour administration since 1977 than any other government in a comparable timescale. The worst thing is, they have been, in the main, 'stealth' taxes - i.e. secondary taxation - paid for out of alreadt taxed income - and therefore higher in real terms.

[DavyR]

the Labour administration since 1977

 

Blimey, and there was me thinking they hadn't got back in until 1987!

[Alan Stubbs]

Blimey, and there was me thinking they hadn't got back in until 1987!

 

Especially as I meant to type 1997!

[Alan Stubbs]

But didn't that "Nice Mr Wilson" say that a devalued pound would make no difference to the pound in your pocket? I remember how re-assuring that statement was.

 

 

I thought that 'nice' Mr Wilson actually said 'The pound in your pocket is worth more in mine!'

[smudger]

yeah and who started charging us for first of all...... the tories

 

...and successive Labour administrations had the opportunity to stop charging ...and didnt.

 

why introduce in the first place..ah yes to give the rich a few more quid in there pocket