GMO's. Would you eat em? Do you like em?

[corydoras]

The origional stock of many of our vegetables are already long gone or useless in the wild sate. Take Brassicas for example. All cabbages, broccoli, cauliflower, turnips, neeps, kale are all bred from wild mustard by artificial selection and hybridisation.

 

GM is just doing what plants can be coaxed into doing by artificial selection but it can bee done in far fewer generations. Not all GM is transgenic . it's more like flipping of and on DIP switches in the organisms genes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_U

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica

 

"Wild" potatoes are not resistant to blight.

"Wild" tomatoes are not resistant to Tobacco Mosaic Virus.

[Steve Walker]

I picked and ate some sea kale last time we were on Anglesey, it was bloody lovely!

[chesters1]

The origional stock of many of our vegetables are already long gone or useless in the wild sate. Take Brassicas for example. All cabbages, broccoli, cauliflower, turnips, neeps, kale are all bred from wild mustard by artificial selection and hybridisation.

 

GM is just doing what plants can be coaxed into doing by artificial selection but it can bee done in far fewer generations. Not all GM is transgenic . it's more like flipping of and on DIP switches in the organisms genes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_U

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica

 

"Wild" potatoes are not resistant to blight.

"Wild" tomatoes are not resistant to Tobacco Mosaic Virus.

my mrs pretty well devastated our toms growing a potato from a bag of spuds but only ours died (when i say died destroyed by me)the effect was minimal .

 

wheres the long term research on GM DOH there is none ,tsk those genies and their bottles maybe related to pandora and her box

Edited October 4, 2014 by chesters1

[Phone]

Cory, Chesters1,

 

If you believe in evolution the "evidence" is all about you (research in practice). Why do you insist on ignoring natural selection as a form of GM (hybrid vigor) - I.e. monkey to man. I assume you may be right someone is messing with status quo - in which case "GOD" did it.

 

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[chesters1]

Status quo may have been gods decades ago but where are they now.

Mentioned natural steps occur ,if they fail theres no harm to the relatives, theres millions of dead ends in evolution.

Theres millions of species that came and went naturally .

Selective breeding with mans help is fine it only generally effects the plants we manipulate over many generations so we can see long term how things have changed for better or worse.

Manipulating a gene and releasing it into the wild with a few years of research is another matter

[Ken L]

GM is just doing what plants can be coaxed into doing by artificial selection but it can bee done in far fewer generations

 

That's simply not true and I know that you know better than to say it is true. Natural or human selection allows for the modification of what is already there and that modification can be morphologically marked - as in brassicas and dogs. It does not however allow the creation of entirely new gene sequences to do stuff that has never been seen in the evolutionary history of the species being artificially selected.

No amount of coaxing or selective breeding is going to get carrots to produce Taliglucerase alfa. That can only be achieved by inserting the genes from another species.

OK, so horizontal gene transfer exists in virus's and in some bacteria but it doesn't happen between plant and animal species which is what we're talking about here.

[Ken L]

Way back in post #7 I listed three areas of concern about GMO's. There is a fourth. The problem of unintended consequences.

Modifying a plant (lets say peas) that is frequently attacked by insect pests to produce a natural insecticide considered safe for human consumption (This has already been done with corn) sounds like a great idea. There's less chemicals being sprayed, the product stays damage free and achieves a better market price and everybody's happy.

Then all the bees die and everybody starves.

[chesters1]

Nooo not the bees ,which bees honey bees no loss if they go but all bees not so good ,then ofcourse theres all the other polinators and those we rarely see at night