Cod crisis? What cod crisis?

[stavey]

Forgets to mention that cod’s biggest predator by far is fish. Eats much more cod than commercials ever catch.

[Leon Roskilly]

Forgets to mention that cod’s biggest predator by far is fish. Eats much more cod than commercials ever catch.

 

Always has done, always will do.

 

Nothing much can be done about that.

 

What we can do though is .............

 

 

 

(It's interesting that when there were plenty of large cod around, they were able to keep the predators of their eggs and fry under control by eating them. Part of the problem is that now most of the larger cod have been taken out of the ecosystem, they can no longer do that, and the smaller fish that eat cod eggs and fry now have the upper hand!)

Edited October 6, 2006 by Leon Roskilly

[Guest challenge]

Always has done, always will do.

 

Nothing much can be done about that.

 

What we can do though is .............

(It's interesting that when there were plenty of large cod around, they were able to keep the predators of their eggs and fry under control by eating them. Part of the problem is that now most of the larger cod have been taken out of the ecosystem, they can no longer do that, and the smaller fish that eat cod eggs and fry now have the upper hand!)

It’s very interesting, maybe we should ask for smaller mesh nets for our commercial friends and an incentive for shovelling more small undersize codlings back over the side as discard in the hope that large cod will return to the ecosystem.

Have you ever thought about a place within the NFFO Leon? The pay is much better than these RSA will ever pay you, and if you make a proper mess of things there could always be the old sward on the shoulder Sir Leon.

Sleep on it mate.

[Guest challenge]

Stavey.

Is that cartoon caricature rolling round on the floor? You having a serious attempt at humour? Or as I suspect you chocking because somebody has mentioned commercial fishermen when stating a fact?

[mr motorola]

Stavey.

Is that cartoon caricature rolling round on the floor? You having a serious attempt at humour? Or as I suspect you chocking because somebody has mentioned commercial fishermen when stating a fact?

rise above it challenge. i know and you know yourself that you're a bigger man...........ooooh er

give him his dummy back and lets talk about fishing

[stavey]

Stavey.

Is that cartoon caricature rolling round on the floor? You having a serious attempt at humour? Or as I suspect you chocking because somebody has mentioned commercial fishermen when stating a fact?

 

Chalenge its just that i have heard so many excuses by commercial fishermen about the collapsing stocks that i had this vision of the very last cod left in the sea trying to devour itself in to extiction and failed to share the joke sorry about that........

[darlick]

Chalenge its just that i have heard so many excuses by commercial fishermen about the collapsing stocks that i had this vision of the very last cod left in the sea trying to devour itself in to extiction and failed to share the joke sorry about that........

Stavey dont worry about the last cod in the sea because its allready safe the way the rules and regs are going there will be no comercial fleet left in a few years time too much conservation too many do gooders too much bureaucracy we as comercial fishermen will be gone before the cod so rest easy mate and chill go forth and get a life

[mr motorola]

Stavey dont worry about the last cod in the sea because its allready safe the way the rules and regs are going there will be no comercial fleet left in a few years time too much conservation too many do gooders too much bureaucracy we as comercial fishermen will be gone before the cod so rest easy mate and chill go forth and get a life

hi darlick ...top man its about time you guys vented your spleens once in a while and made your voices heard

[big_cod]

Paul, wurzel is a commercial fisherman for god sake. I always thought that herring come back to the same place because the north sea was once a river and herring once swam and laid there eggs in the same rivers. There’s tons and tons of hard ground to norad of where the herrings sporn, why don’t they sporn there?

Why do herring sporn in the Humber three times a year?

There never is anything to catch in the Whitby area prior to herring time, there never has been not even when we where going away and having hundred kit days regularly.

the boats would work the summer months with the ropes (catching all them big cod in the deserts of the fine grounds and baremans) then lay up for a paint up etc till the herring fishery got started.

If the majority of cod in the North Sea are present at this fishery? Then why the hell aren’t the majority of boats that work in the North Sea there chasseing them.

It’s small codlings and crap that gets caught. We will have caught more big cod this year with anglers than commercial fishermen will take out of that fishery.

The herring fishery off Whitby only effects local waters Paul, always has done and always will do.

It certainly did not stop our anglers catching loads of prime cod when the herring fishery was at it strongest. The same as I don’t suppose it would affect wurzel in his professional quest for fish.

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John in reply to wurzel he asked the question does spawn draw fish from all over the north sea if spawn is anywhere it will draw small codlings, whitings, haddocks which there isnt here now as they have but all disapeared.

But to the local stock it must have some affect but lets wait and see what the outcome is its being a very good year on the spawn this year but according to latest they has been a big mark near the acuba which has been fished by the scarborough pair teams and by all accounts they have catching one hell of a lot of **** proper kinder garden stuff.

I allways remember bant telling me the best haul of cod he ever saw when he was fishing and to my amizement he said it was on snarly off all places not with the ropes but with the trawl 2 and 3 fish to a box go over that ground now and most of the fish caught wouldnt be longer than a foot ruler, bant was fishing with ropes for many years through the summer then potting through the winter how times have changed but you must be optomistic and keep believeing its good to see a large influx of small codling but such a shame in 2006 that shovelling is still taking place like it was 20 years ago but not on the scale it was then it would make sense to tie up during this period and be compensated which would probably never happen but a lot of the lads agree this would make sense and the bulk of what has gone back over the side would give them a good winter fishing as the speed as to what small codling grow is remarkable.

 

Wurzel Rumours are rife that the big scottish boats have caught to much cod this year and in a few weeks all the cod quota will have being used up which means a total closure is posible very shortly.

Edited October 7, 2006 by big_cod

[Guest challenge]

Look Paul, at the end of the day you’re making assumptions? Assumptions that fish is today shovelled over the side by the boat load? You’re making assumptions that fish was shovelled over the side20 years ago?

You’ve never worked in the industry Paul so you can only make assumptions. I was working in the industry twenty years ago when you assume all this dumping was going on? Well I never witnessed it in the 15 years that I worked in it. And that Paul is no assumption. What goes on today I don’t know, I like you can only presume.

lets not make to many assumptions about an industry that we are not connected to when as this thread has proven, RSA have a long way to go before they understand what goes on within there own world.

Regards.