Cod crisis? What cod crisis?

[glennk]

Paul, you yourself have reported an upturn.

 

Time to either do something about the herring spawn fishery or just forget about it. Moaning here wont make them stop.

Edited October 5, 2006 by glennk

[mr motorola]

Woke up this morning and first thing I did was made my self a cup of coffee then read your thread.

Ran striate down stares opened the front door and lifted the door mat.

Guess what? Not a cod to be seen.

You will have to tell me where I am going wrong big cod. Still trip booked for tea time (hopefully weather will stay fine) and hopefully we can (dare I say it) catch a few more cod.

It’s a regular bunch who have been coming to Whitby since the seventy’s, so I am going to give them a pep talk on catch and release. It is well rehearsed (pep talk) and I have got all my props ready.

So will update on there reaction and comments on return.

Regards.

keep us up to date with your catch mate

[big_cod]

Paul, you yourself have reported an upturn.

 

Time to either do something about the herring spawn fishery or just forget about it. Moaning here wont make them stop.

 

Glennk i refering to what leon posted regarding effpo site on the state of cod stocks by what they are saying cod and whiting are in masses cod galore all over the north sea which is going a little bit overboard i would say , what i previously posted was to say before the spawny season things were quite for the trawlers when its finished wait and see if its the same.

Edited October 5, 2006 by big_cod

[big_cod]

Full details at:

 

http://www.eefpo.co.uk/home

 

Talking to one of the local skippers last night and he told me get clear of the herring spawn and its like being in a desert.

[wurzel]

Talking to one of the local skippers last night and he told me get clear of the herring spawn and its like being in a desert.

 

Hello Big Cod

 

So do you reckon that all the cod in the North Sea are feeding on the herring spawn just off Whitby then?

[glennk]

Talking to one of the local skippers last night and he told me get clear of the herring spawn and its like being in a desert.

 

 

Can you blame them for fishing in it then Paul ? Its one of the only times of year they can actually make any money from catching fish rather than hanging round oil rigs etc. The research highlights a discard problem but without people willing to highlight this and try get something done it will remain the same for as long as there are juvenile codlings in the sea.

 

I was told one of the skippers refuses to fish the spawn ? Is that right and if so how is he making a living ?

[big_cod]

Hello Big Cod

 

So do you reckon that all the cod in the North Sea are feeding on the herring spawn just off Whitby then?

 

No but the vast majority probably in a 12 mile square box whitby has some of the best reefs around the uk and there is a lot of desert off other parts of the uk coastline where there is very little cod thats why herring allways spawn off here , spawn draws fish for many miles think about it wurzel if there is nothing clear of the spawn does it mean its thick with fish or are they thin on the ground ,the latter i would say but lets wait and see the spawny season will be coming to close very shortly the herring have gone shot there little orange eggs knee deep on the sea bed and it will all soon become clear just whats left.

Edited October 6, 2006 by big_cod

[Guest challenge]

No but the vast majority probably in a 12 mile square box whitby has some of the best reefs around the uk and there is a lot of desert off other parts of the uk coastline where there is very little cod thats why herring allways spawn off here , spawn draws fish for many miles think about it wurzel if there is nothing clear of the spawn does it mean its thick with fish or are they thin on the ground ,the latter i would say but lets wait and see the spawny season will be coming to close very shortly the herring have gone shot there little orange eggs knee deep on the sea bed and it will all soon become clear just whats left.

Paul, wurzel is a commercial fisherman for god sake. I always thought that herring come back to the same place because the north sea was once a river and herring once swam and laid there eggs in the same rivers. There’s tons and tons of hard ground to norad of where the herrings sporn, why don’t they sporn there?

Why do herring sporn in the Humber three times a year?

There never is anything to catch in the Whitby area prior to herring time, there never has been not even when we where going away and having hundred kit days regularly.

the boats would work the summer months with the ropes (catching all them big cod in the deserts of the fine grounds and baremans) then lay up for a paint up etc till the herring fishery got started.

If the majority of cod in the North Sea are present at this fishery? Then why the hell aren’t the majority of boats that work in the North Sea there chasseing them.

It’s small codlings and crap that gets caught. We will have caught more big cod this year with anglers than commercial fishermen will take out of that fishery.

The herring fishery off Whitby only effects local waters Paul, always has done and always will do.

It certainly did not stop our anglers catching loads of prime cod when the herring fishery was at it strongest. The same as I don’t suppose it would affect wurzel in his professional quest for fish.

[Leon Roskilly]

Some information from CEFAS

 

http://www.cefas.co.uk/Fisheries/publicati...codnorthsea.pdf

 

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Cod can live longer than 15 years, however high fishing rates observed since the 1970s have resulted in less than 5% of 1-year-old cod surviving to age 4, the age at which approximately half of them will have matured.

 

(From their new Fisheries Information service - see: http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Po...nformation.html )

 

 

Can you imagine what the fishing would be like if most were allowed to reach maturity, instead of just 2.5%!

Edited October 6, 2006 by Leon Roskilly

[Guest challenge]

Some information from CEFAS

 

http://www.cefas.co.uk/Fisheries/publicati...codnorthsea.pdf

 

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(From their new Fisheries Information service - see: http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Po...nformation.html )

Can you imagine what the fishing would be like if most were allowed to reach maturity, instead of just 2.5%!

Forgets to mention that cod’s biggest predator by far is fish. Eats much more cod than commercials ever catch.