Kent and Essex SFC & bag limits on anglers

[Guest challenge]

I heard that they were going to completely nationalise commercial fishing and pay fishermen the minimum wage. But it's not all bad news.

 

I also heard that McDonalds are recruiting

Sounds like a good idea to me Steve.

If a commercial fishermen who catches cod, and so is only allowed 15 days at sea was part of a nationalised industry and therefore got paid minimum wage by the hour, he would still earn £1440 pounds per month and not even have to catch any fish. This wage would of course increase when you take into account over time rate that would come into effect after he has worked his first 40 hours (or at the end of his second day at sea.)

Do that for 25 years and get a £60000 golden handshake.

Nice little earner for him to count when he is retired in his free fisherman’s cottage that came with the job.

The retired commercial fisherman is only fifty so he thinks that now he has taken early retirement and has no worry’s he could go and get himself a little boat and try a bit of recreational fishing. There’s bound to be loads of fish because nobody for the last 25 years has been trying to catch it.

Regards.

[glennk]

This wage would of course increase when you take into account over time rate that would come into effect after he has worked his first 40 hours (or at the end of his second day at sea.)

Do that for 25 years and get a £60000 golden handshake.

 

Your having a tin bath now John. Working time initiative means you cant work more than 37 hours and as for unsociable hour premiums they are a thing of the past matey. Its a flat rate for all employees of government and related bodies no matter when they work - Get a grip

[Guest challenge]

Your having a tin bath now John. Working time initiative means you cant work more than 37 hours and as for unsociable hour premiums they are a thing of the past matey. Its a flat rate for all employees of government and related bodies no matter when they work - Get a grip

So what are you saying here? No body working in a nationalised industry can work overtime anymore? Sounds even better. Imagine the government officials going down to the fish key on a Sunday night to chuck the ropes off for the boys and shouting, don’t go to far lads you’ve only got 39 hours to go.

[glennk]

So what are you saying here? No body working in a nationalised industry can work overtime anymore? Sounds even better. Imagine the government officials going down to the fish key on a Sunday night to chuck the ropes off for the boys and shouting, don’t go to far lads you’ve only got 39 hours to go.

 

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[Steve Coppolo]

Working time initiative means you cant work more than 37 hours

 

I wish someone would tell the LFB that, I work 48 hours per week!

[steve good]

I wish someone would tell the LFB that, I work 48 hours per week!

 

Hi Steve

 

80 to 120 hours a week here

 

steve

[barry luxton]

Steve,

 

There will be no decision until it is made by the Full Statutory Committee Meeting on 12th February (which will be open to the public).

 

The closed Technical Panel Meeting that took place today was to consider all of the issues in detail, and to agree what advice should be offered to the full committee in making their decision.

 

Until that advice is given to the full committee (at a meeting open to the public) it is understandably not available to anyone else.

 

The advice given by the technical panel, will be the subject of open discussion at the 12th February meeting and the full meeting will need to decide whether it is to go with the advice offered by the technical panel, or to do something else.

 

Frustrating I know, but you can imagine the fuss that would ensue if everyone else knew what the technical panel advice was before the committee members who had referred the matter to the technical panel :eek:

 

I look forward to seeing some friendly faces at the February meeting.

 

Hopefully they will come to a sensible decision

 

 

Right then, according to the eu study of pan european recreational sea fishing 2006 (thanks Leon). Within it states that bass, 600 tonnes attributed to commercial, 400 tonnes rsa and 20-25 tonnes attributed to the illegal selling of bass. If this is the case why then is ben and co,defra spending loads of our money discussing , trying to make it a bylaw to restrict the rsa to stamp out the problem of black fish selling (bass). There is no problem based on the above figures. Don't forget it will cost an enormous amount of our money in policing this if it is accepted. What about gill tagging at the point of sell, self policing at very little cost if there is a percieved problem?

 

Where have the welsh authority and defra and areas of the fishing community got figures from to state that there is a problem and it has got to be sorted now, urgently as apposed to waiting for the marine bill. Double standards in particular where the bass stocks have to wait untill 2010 before they are safe in the knowledge that they can get their legover before being lifted. There also does not appear to be a problem with the stock unless some one knows different.

 

You will see friendly faces Leon but they won't be very happy if the commitee goes down the road of restriction based on the above figures. Cheers bemused barry

Edited January 17, 2007 by barry luxton

[Steve Coppolo]

Right then, according to the eu study of pan european recreational sea fishing 2006 (thanks Leon). Within it states that bass, 600 tonnes attributed to commercial, 400 tonnes rsa and 20-25 tonnes attributed to the illegal selling of bass.

 

How on earth did they manage to come up with those figures? Those figures have just got to be a load of old b*ll*cks. So RSA takes two thirds as much bass from the sea as commercial fishing does it? Like f**k! If the rest of the document is as stupid as that bit, I'm glad I haven't wasted any of my time reading it.

Edited January 17, 2007 by Steve Coppolo

[wurzel]

How on earth did they manage to come up with those figures? Those figures have just got to be a load of old b*ll*cks. So RSA takes two thirds as much bass from the sea as commercial fishing does it? Like f**k! If the rest of the document is as stupid as that bit, I'm glad I haven't wasted any of my time reading it.

 

If that 600 tons includes the French pair teams that means you lot are seriously out fishing us inshore boats.

Can't have that!

I can see some serious management coming your way.

[RedBull]

They may take our freedom, but they can not take our perch fishing!