NFFO slams Seafish appointments

[Ian Burrett]

You just make it up as you go along.

 

 

priceless.

 

[Steve Coppolo]

If you take the annual budget of my local SFC and divide between the number of registered boats in the district, it amounts to approximately £7,000 per boat. That's £7,000 of tax payers money per commercial fishing boat that could be spent on something else, like hospitals, crime, education, etc. When you take the amount of money that the fisheries department of DEFRA eats up each year, and divide that between the number of registered commercial fishing boats in the UK, the amount of tax payers money spent per commercial fishing boat gets even more obscene. I can't think of any other self employed people who get that much public money spent on them. Maybe there are other examples and someone might be able to point out what they are, but I can't think of any right now.

Edited January 27, 2007 by Steve Coppolo

[mr motorola]

If you take the annual budget of my local SFC and divide between the number of registered boats in the district, it amounts to approximately £7,000 per boat. That's £7,000 of tax payers money per commercial fishing boat that could be spent on something else, like hospitals, crime, education, etc. When you take the amount of money that the fisheries department of DEFRA eats up each year, and divide that between the number of registered commercial fishing boats in the UK, the amount of tax payers money spent per commercial fishing boat gets even more obscene. I can't think of any other self employed people who get that much public money spent on them. Maybe there are other examples and someone might be able to point out what they are, but I can't think of any right now.

So what should we be lobbying for then Steve?

An abolishment of the charter boat industry?

[barry luxton]

If you take the annual budget of my local SFC and divide between the number of registered boats in the district, it amounts to approximately £7,000 per boat. That's £7,000 of tax payers money per commercial fishing boat that could be spent on something else, like hospitals, crime, education, etc. When you take the amount of money that the fisheries department of DEFRA eats up each year, and divide that between the number of registered commercial fishing boats in the UK, the amount of tax payers money spent per commercial fishing boat gets even more obscene. I can't think of any other self employed people who get that much public money spent on them. Maybe there are other examples and someone might be able to point out what they are, but I can't think of any right now.

 

 

Defra's annual budjet= 100mil

[Ian Burrett]

So what should we be lobbying for then Steve?

An abolishment of the charter boat industry?

 

The charter boat Industry receives no handouts from anyone. Unfortunatley

[Guest challenge]

If you take the annual budget of my local SFC and divide between the number of registered boats in the district, it amounts to approximately £7,000 per boat. That's £7,000 of tax payers money per commercial fishing boat that could be spent on something else, like hospitals, crime, education, etc. When you take the amount of money that the fisheries department of DEFRA eats up each year, and divide that between the number of registered commercial fishing boats in the UK, the amount of tax payers money spent per commercial fishing boat gets even more obscene. I can't think of any other self employed people who get that much public money spent on them. Maybe there are other examples and someone might be able to point out what they are, but I can't think of any right now.

That’s simply because you will find it hard to find any other self employed who are regulated by so much bureaucracy. Ask any commercial fisherman if he thinks that the tax payer is getting a good return for there money through DEFRA.

So if it cost the taxpayer £7000 per fishing boat per year. Then the last commercial fishing boat I worked on. Paid for the running of seven fishing boats in the amount of tax we paid as individuals. then you have to take into account the amount of tax that the owners paid, And we eared peanuts compared with some of the top earning boats.

Don’t you think that commercial fishermen pay taxes?

I agree that DEFRA spends atrocious amounts of taxpayer’s money and soon they will be spending mountains more of taxpayer’s money on regulating RSA. You will also find that fishermen are not the only ones that DEFRA spends taxpayer’s money on.

Regards.

[Guest challenge]

The charter boat Industry receives no handouts from anyone. Unfortunatley

so you pay full price for your fuel then? because thats the only money that i ever receaved in any kind of rebate for the 14 years i was in the fishing industry.

[Steve Coppolo]

That’s simply because you will find it hard to find any other self employed who are regulated by so much bureaucracy. Ask any commercial fisherman if he thinks that the tax payer is getting a good return for there money through DEFRA.

 

I agree, but why does it need so much regulation and bureacracy?

 

So if it cost the taxpayer £7000 per fishing boat per year.

 

No, that is just for SFC's. When you add DEFRA's fisheries budget the figure becomes something like £18,000 per boat.

 

Then the last commercial fishing boat I worked on. Paid for the running of seven fishing boats in the amount of tax we paid as individuals.

 

No it didn't. Not all tax that commercial fishermen pay goes towards fisheries management. Anyway, I didn't say the tax payers money went towards running commercial fishing boats, I said it was spent on managing them. Either way, it's still a lot of public money for tin pot industry.

 

I agree that DEFRA spends atrocious amounts of taxpayer’s money and soon they will be spending mountains more of taxpayer’s money on regulating RSA. You will also find that fishermen are not the only ones that DEFRA spends taxpayer’s money on.

Regards.

 

Again, I agree. It's disgusting, especially when you think of the state that our public services are in and how that money could be spent. When you see how DEFRA perform, and then think that all government departments are run the same, it's quite frightening. Just look at the mess that the home office is in now. Going off on a bit of a tangent now, but I often wondered how once great civilisations like the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians ended up like they have. In can now see that we are headed the same way and how it's happened. Greed. A few people in positions of power more worried about feathering their own nests than the good of the country. Rant over.

Edited January 27, 2007 by Steve Coppolo

[stavey]

I agree, but why does it need so much regulation and bureacracy?

No, that is just for SFC's. When you add DEFRA's fisheries budget the figure becomes something like £18,000 per boat.

No it didn't. Not all tax that commercial fishermen pay goes towards fisheries management. Anyway, I didn't say the tax payers money went towards running commercial fishing boats, I said it was spent on managing them. Either way, it's still a lot of public money for tin pot industry.

Again, I agree. It's disgusting, especially when you think of the state that our public services are in and how that money could be spent. When you see how DEFRA perform, and then think that all government departments are run the same, it's quite frightening. Just look at the mess that the home office is in now. Going off on a bit of a tangent now, but I often wondered how once great civilisations like the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians ended up like they have. In can now see that we are headed the same way and how it's happened. Greed. A few people in positions of power more worried about feathering their own nests than the good of the country. Rant over.

 

 

Hi steve

 

7000 quid per boat sfc admin costs, bloody hell!! no wonder our council taxes are through the roof! in my area we have over 400 boats registered here thats around almost 3 million sovs for what is quite accurately as you pointed out a TIN POT INDUSTRY!! strewth........

[JB]

I would like to ask a question.

 

Do you think that the outrageous amount of taxpayers’ money spent on the tiny commercial fishing industry is for the benefit of the few fishermen taking part in it, or for the benefit of the massive numbers of bureaucrats in the grossly overstaffed departments overseeing the management of this tiny industry?

 

I suppose the answers will vary, depending on whether you are a “commercial-basher” or not.

 

JB