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Not sure if anyone on here goes to Bury Hill or had any plans to try for its Crucians, Roach or Zander in the future but the days of just turning up and paying on the day are numbered.

 

 

http://www.total-fishing.com/fishing-news/bury-hill-fisheries-become-members-only-2016

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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Never fished the place and it's unlikely I ever will because of the location, but reading the article you linked to makes me think this is actually a positive for anyone who currently DOES fish on a day ticket.

For a relatively modest annual 'membership' fee of just £25 (which in turn reduces your daily cost by £2 - £3 per day), the owner is talking about reducing the number of anglers on the water, and improving it as a fishery in ways that many / most would welcome with open arms - not least being that it won't be stuffed with carp ... and it's a move that may just deter the type of idiots most of us would rather not have to tolerate banside, no?!

Have to be honest, if I WAS local, or a regular there, I'd be grabbing a membership with both hands whilst they are still available - the implication is that the numbers will be limited, so to me it sounds like a bit of a win-win situation for any interested angler ... or am I missing something?

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i most be getting feeble i always thought it was called Old bury hill?

perhaps it was ageist?

i fished there in the late 60's for pike but i didnt do well if i remember ,nothing but jacks i think

probably its easier finantially you can save a chap at the gate taking money and pay him for a couple of hours checking permits a couple of times a day

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Chesters, you are right it is/was called Old Bury Hill but now that it is a complex of still waters the main lake tends to get called the Old Lake and the complex Bury Hill.

 

Philo, as some one who does fish it from time to time it does seem like a very good move for its anglers. I have registered interest in a membership for next season and will be applying for a winter predator ticket for this season in the next few weeks. All the changes I have heard about sound good including removing some of the Bream and Carp.

 

It's rather nice to hear about a fishery taking steps to really improve the fishery as most "fishery improvements" often just seem to involve extra swims and heavy stocking of Carp.

 

I posted the link up as I know it is a popular destination for those after a first Zed or after some prolific Crucian fishing.

Stephen

 

Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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Another nail in the coffin for those starting out or thinking about it.

 

Most start on day ticket waters, now quite a few will not bother.

 

Den

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Another nail in the coffin for those starting out or thinking about it.

 

Most start on day ticket waters, now quite a few will not bother.

 

Den

Not sure I'd agree poledark ... I strongly suspect that most people starting out hit their local commercial, of which there are usually way too many, even on your own doorstep ... and many of them will never venture away from the blighted places either.

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Why should fishery owners not be motivated by profit? All other businesses are and they often have a massive investment to recover.

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

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Bury Hill was my local water when I was growing up, and was originally owned by the family of a school friend. Indeed I still have some homemade pike bungs and spoons that were made by his grandfather specifically for the water when they still lived in the house.

 

I remember fishing there with great fondness, and the changes over the years have not really been for the better in my view. It was a classic estate lake with massive lily pads which attracted the tench and very decent crucians close in, but the matches were always won with huge bags of bream on the lead at distance. Very few carp, which you occasionally hooked on your match tackle - rarely stayed attached for more than 30 seconds! There was also a massive head of roach and rudd to keep the pike nicely fed . They introduced zander, not sure if that was a good thing (certainly the piking isn't as good), added 3 new lakes and then stocked the original lake with loads of carp, which changed the nature of the fishing dramatically - good if you like carp, bad if you like tench/crucians. The bream fishing is still very reliable (Rusty will be glad to hear!).

 

The improvements they are making are to be applauded like managing the carp/bream, stocks and replanting the lilies. With the removal/disappearance of the lilies, the only consistent way of catching tench is to take a boat out and fish the jungle; and it would be great to get them close in, and all round the lake, again. I do hope, in a market where carp drives the money, that the changes to his business model and fishery strategy work for him - it would be great to have a 'general' fishery of the quality of the 'old' Bury Hill back on the circuit - with something for everyone.

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I had a conversation on the bank with the owner ( David De Vere ) about 4 years or so back and brought up the subject of the disappearance of the lilly beds along the long bank. He explained that a lot had been drastically cut back to help deal with an outbreak of Crays on the main lake. It must have been fairly successful as I have never caught one there !!! I have fished the complex for over 30 years, although not as regularly as I would have liked purely due to travelling distance for me, and in that time I have noted the efforts put into the waters by the current owner.From the aeration system implemented when the lake stocks were suffering during hot summers ( creating a nice trotting swim n the process ) and his stocking systems creating a genuine all year round fishery to his support of various charities allowing the lakes to be used during fundraising days I can only say that I wish all fishery management would take a leaf out of his book. What he may lack in a winning smile he more than makes up for in his reluctance to allow the complex to become a profit at all costs mudsucker haven which probably would have been a more lucrative option. There is something there for everyone and I for one will be applying for membership whether I get down there or not as the prospect of never seeing the main lake in the Spring/Summer with the Rhodedendrons in full bloom on the island whilst bobbing about in a punt would give me sleepless nights.

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