hooks straightening

[wotnobivvy]

Bought a packet of Kamasan b911 size 10 barbless. The fish are mainly carp up to 10lb and give a good account of themselves. 2nd fish the line went slack and came back with a partially straightened hook. Switched back to Drennan Specimen and the hook lasted all day with about half a dozen more big fish. Anyone else had problems with the Kamasan hooks

[Tigger]

I'd say it was likely that the second fish was foul hooked. i do use kamasan hooks "animals" and they've never opend up unles i've foul hooked a fish or hooked a snag etc.

[Phone]

wotnob,

 

I believe Kamasan is a division of Gamakatsu (or not(?)). But I'm pretty sure my memory serves me correctly. Could very well have been a hook that was not annealed (sp) properly. Is this hook ferrous?

 

I use the same or similar hook but in so much larger size it is not worth any discussion.

 

Phone

[Sportsman]

Hi WNB

I have stopped using B911s because of just the problem you describe. I have also seen it discussed on other forums.

I now use maver or Guru hooks with no problem

[wotnobivvy]

I have used the Animal hooks with no problems. As it was a packet of 10 hooks I will ditch them as I have no confidence in them. I have foul hooked fish before on this water as it is quite shallow, but always managed to land them

[Vagabond]

Don't condemn a hook because it straightens out !

 

If roach fishing, a #14 that will hold a roach, but straighten out if a carp of (say) over 5lb takes your bait is very useful. (I would be using 3 lb mono - to give an idea of the pressure to straighten the hook) Once you are sure its a carp, give it plenty of stick. I am delighted if the hook straightens in such a scenario.

 

Consider the two alternatives - either a break off, or you are committed to a carp trundling round your swim for ten or fifteen minutes, then a commotion as its netted, thus ruining your chances of roach.

 

Replace the straightened hook, which takes but a minute or two, by which time you can usually get the roach feeding again.

Edited September 26, 2015 by Vagabond

[Sportsman]

That works if you are fishing for roach. Not so well if you are fishing for carp. Some people do.

[Tigger]

That works if you are fishing for roach. Not so well if you are fishing for carp. Some people do.

 

I think Daves saying "it's horses for courses", you get a hook suitable for the target species, makes sense to me.

 

There's loads of hooks suitable for carp that would pull out of the fish before they'd bend out. As I said, even a lot of the finer hooks don't bend out so easily if the fish is lip hooked.

[Vagabond]

Right - I rarely fish for carp these days, when I do, its sight-fishing and stalking with floaters - have no patience with the "frighten the buggers to the other side of the lake and then chuck a bolt rig over to 'em" approach.

 

But that aside, five up to ten-pound-plus-a-little-bit carp are so easy to hook close to the dam wall on float-fished maggot (when using maggot loose-feed) at this particular venue I wonder why the carpers bother with all those rod-pods, baiting spods and distance fishing (don't tell me they are after REAL monsters - have never heard of nor seen any carp over about 12 lb at this lake). Did I say "distance fishing" ? - the lake is about 40 yards across and the overhanging beeches carry a garnish of the "distance casters'" bolt rigs and anti-tangle devices - if you think you need to put a bait under the beech trees, then all that's required is to walk quietly round to the other bank and fish under the rod tip !

 

I've learnt my lesson with small strong hooks - hook a carp and you have to play and land it. I have hopes of a decent (well, past the 1 lb mark) roach when I fish there so if I hook a gate-crashing carp I want rid of it ASAP.

Edited September 28, 2015 by Vagabond

[Vagabond]

Duplicate, sorry, please remove

Edited September 28, 2015 by Vagabond