Just you wait

[Steve Walker]

To save anyone else Googling, this means 'growing old'

With an implication of decline and deterioration

[Tigger]

The same applies to eastern europeans ,if they can catch "every" fish in a river using the most basic of tackle we should be employing them as angling tutors they must be very good just think what they could do with decent tackle.

The decline will be down to the most obvious but hardest to control as big business rules the roost ,modern washing liquids ,fabric conditioner or some other modern chemical used country wide ,unfortunately sewage works can only remove solids and bacteria cannot remove every chemical so sewage companies polute the rivers everyday not just the headline occurrences

Problem with the human poachers is they use other methods than just rod and line, often using nets etc.

One was actually drowned on an incoming tide a few years back as he and his accomplaces set a net on a near by river.

 

I think that's known as rough justic.

Edited May 28, 2016 by Tigger

[Kappa]

I was thinking this was was intolerable. No-one to blame. But I just realised I can blame my wife! Peeing out oestrogens left right and centre and doing all of that washing......

[Vagabond]

Funny how you see anglers abroad and the banks are solid with all kinds of fish eating birds, mammals and reptiles and yet you never hear them moaning about them. Infact they often look for them to find fish.

They may have more important things to think about, like bears (North America, Northern Eurasia) and crocodiles (Australia, Asia, Africa) that might eat fish and angler with equal gusto. It doesn't put anglers off, but certainly makes them wary. Fishing a venue in which you know man is not the top predator sharpens the senses considerably !

 

...and you are right, not once have I heard anglers from such places complain about any other creature eating "their" fish.

[RUDD]

Just back from Greece and it's definitely otter over there.

Thousands of immigrants have not decimated fish stocks either, saw plenty while snorkelling.

A water near me now has very healthy fish stocks again as well as plenty of other aquatic life one such species being a pair of nesting bitterns. As said, fish get old and die, trouble is anglers do like a bit of gossip with plenty of additives to spice up a story!

 

Just back from Greece and it's definitely otter over there.

Thousands of immigrants have not decimated fish stocks either, saw plenty while snorkelling.

A water near me now has very healthy fish stocks again as well as plenty of other aquatic life one such species being a pair of nesting bitterns. As said, fish get old and die, trouble is anglers do like a bit of gossip with plenty of additives to spice up a story!

 

So much so as I had to tell you twice

[Vagabond]

fish get old and die

Birds too. In fact all creatures in a natural environment

 

If one thinks about it, the equivalent of a whole year's recruitment dies every year. If it were not so, every water would be packed solid with fish, and we would be buried under a seething mass of wildlife. Populations fluctuate a bit, but the overall result is as stated.

 

Even anglers, ornithologists and naturalists only see a tiny proportion of deceased wildlife - most rots/gets eaten out of sight.

 

 

"Why is the world not overwhelmed with oysters ? so prolific the creatures seem..." said Sherlock Holmes

(Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

Edited May 30, 2016 by Vagabond

[Steve Walker]

Mr Holmes might consider the abundance of limestone!

[Vagabond]

Mr Holmes might consider the abundance of limestone!

But geologically speaking, even limestone is ephemeral. Every few years there is "news" that part of Beachy Head/Seven Sisters/Seaford Head/Birling Gap and its cottages has fallen into the sea. Millions of tons of chalk in a big heap at the base of the cliff, and two months later that cliff fall has been washed away by the tides.

 

...and look what rain is doing to the Mendips.

[chesters1]

Also people forget the cliffs were once UNDER the sea and are slowly returning home

[Steve Walker]

This, by the way, is why demanding otter culls is a hiding to nothing - none of us are as cute, and nor are carp;

 

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