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#1 chesters1

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:49 PM

Marvellous anglers Johnny foreigner ,with their 6ft kids rods and plastic reels according to some can devoid a river or lake of all fish overnight!
Perhaps this is why? Why would anyone pay this for any fish never mind god awful bream?
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:33 PM

 Looking at that, I've chucked a few quids worth of fish back over the years. If only I had known  :doh:

You often see Pike and Zander on the fishmonger's slab here and very expensive it is too.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:36 PM

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 09:10 AM

 Why would anyone pay this for any fish never mind god awful bream?

When we first went to Ireland in 1953, there were some desperately poor people there.   

 

One aspect of this was the lavish treatment we got from the hotels (they were desperate for repeat custom)

A second aspect was the presence of small boys, each clutching a jar of lobworms on the river bank, chanting "D'yee wanna  buy any worrums Misther"   At sixpence a jar so full of worms that they lasted one angler all day,  we thought it good value, and sixpence was a fortune to the worm sellers. Many of these lads only wore one garment - shorts made out of hessian sacking , held up by braces made from binder twine. Coupled with the general "skin and bone" appearance of the boys, it was quite a culture shock to see such abject poverty so close to home.

 

One lad, Liam, became our regular supplier and aspects one and two above came together when we opened the picnic basket containing our "packed lunches" Each day the hotel loaded it with enough food to feed, if not an army, at least a small company.  There was more than enough even for the hollow-legged teenagers we then were.    So we offered a sandwich or two to Liam, and they disappeared faster than a spaniel wolfing down a stolen sausage.   This lad, if not at starvation level, was nevetheless very hungry indeed.   We learnt that his very large family fasted on Fridays as they could not afford fish  (which information further hardened my views on religious customs)

 

As we were to fish for perch from a boat the next day (Friday) we offered to bring him some fish back   Liam accepted.

 

We brought back about twenty-eight pounds of medium-sized perch,and were met at the staithe by Liam, and four of his brothers, all wearing the same style of hessian shorts and carrying sacks of the same material.    Liam's father had come along also to thank us for the fish.   We mentioned we were bream fishing the next day which drew the observation "We don't eat the brame sorr, they are a dhurty fish !"

 

So there we are - even a 1950s Irish family on the breadline won't eat bream, yet some people in this country will pay almost £5 per lb for it !


Edited by Vagabond, 09 December 2017 - 11:19 AM.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:35 AM

Very famous local fishmongers - been selling coarse fish for the pot as long as I can remember - certainly as far back as the early 70's - would ALWAYS stop by when ever I was in town as a kid as they would often have a big pike in the window! (Reading has had a large Polish community for a long time - which I guess helped their trade - it will certainly be full of carp at this time of year - a traditional Christmas dish in Poland!)

 

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:58 AM

Very famous local fishmongers - been selling coarse fish for the pot as long as I can remember - certainly as far back as the early 70's - would ALWAYS stop by when ever I was in town as a kid as they would often have a big pike in the window! (Reading has had a large Polish community for a long time - which I guess helped their trade - it will certainly be full of carp at this time of year - a traditional Christmas dish in Poland!)
 
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No fishmonger in Farnham or Aldershot as far as I know ,regarding the Aldershot one at the top of town it was a Saturday treat after doing the weeks shopping was parking opposite it and eating a vast bag of chicken wings i bought for the family they sold (it was a butcher and fishmonger) boxes of lambs hearts as well which we turned into very tasty stew.
Never spotted any freshwater fish as Aldershot in the 70's was mostly white intact the only obviously foreign shop was the Italian deli opposite the station now its predominately foreign shops .
The only freshwater fish on sale I ever saw was at billingsgate on a school trip but then how many kids take much notice in Mac fisheries apart from buying sardines for pike!

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 11:01 AM

When we first went to Ireland in 1953, there were some desperately poor people there.   
 
One aspect of this was the lavish treatment we got from the hotels (they were desperate for repeat custom)
A second aspect was the presence of small boys, each clutching a jar of lobworms on the river bank, chanting "D'yee wanna  buy any worrums Misther"   At sixpence a jar so full of worms that they lasted one angler all day,  we thought it good value, and sixpence was a fortune to the worm sellers. Many of these lads only wore one garment - shorts made out of hessian sacking , held up by braces made from binder twine. Coupled with the general "skin and bone" appearance of the boys, it was quite a culture shock to see such abject poverty so close to home.
 
One lad, Liam, became our regular supplier and aspects one and two above came together when we opened the picnic basket containing our "packed lunches" Each day the hotel loaded it with enough food to feed, if not an army, at least a small company.  There was more than enough even for the hollow-legged teenagers we then were.    So we offered a sandwich or two to Liam, and they disappeared faster than a spaniel wolfing down a stolen sausage.   This lad, if not at starvation level, was nevetheless very hungry indeed.   We learnt that his very large family fasted on Fridays as they could not afford fish  (which information further hardened my views on religious customs)
 
As we were to fish for perch from a boat the next day (Friday) we offered to bring him some fish back   Liam accepted.
 
We brought back about twenty-eight pounds of medium-sized perch,and were met at the staithe by Liam, and four of his brothers, all wearing the same style of hessian shorts and carrying sacks of the same material.    Liam's father had come along also to thank us for the fish.   We mentioned we were bream fishing the next day which drew the observation "We don't eat the bream sorr, they are a dhurty fish !"
 
So there we are - even a 1950s Irish family on the breadline won't eat bream, yet some people in this country will pay almost £5 per lb for it !

Blimey bailer twine that's a bit posh we used to dream .........etc
Only visited Ireland once in the late 60's when it was the fishing place to be ,cannot even remember where we went it was a bus excursion with an overnight stop in some brown room!
The river was like the river at Maidstone but far colder and damper ,had a good two days but apart from the anglers and bus driver and perhaps the b&b owner saw no-one
The coach took us to a river ,we piled out and fished (driver as well) then went to the b&b via him providing fish and chips and went back the next day after breakfast until dinnertime when we went home ,the travelling time far exceeded the fishing time and coaches then were not very good for sleeping on .
I took Monday off sick I was so knackered

Edited by chesters1, 09 December 2017 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 11:23 AM

Hove (large Jewish population) has a fishmonger's which has offered carp for as long as I can remember - ie at least as far back as WW II


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Posted 10 December 2017 - 07:44 PM

Plenty of bream and carp in Birmingham markets. Roach are fairly regular too and occasionally pollen end up on the slab - which kinds suggests the source.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima.  Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullen's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.
Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub. 
Species caught in 2014: Striped catfish. Pacu. Giant gourami. Clown knife fish. Rohu. Siamese carp. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Roach. Bream. Perch. Rainbow trout. Chub. Common Carp, Ide. Brown Trout. Barbel. Mekong catfish. Jullen's golden carp. Alligator gar. Java barb.
Species caught in 2013: Mangrove Jack. Barramundi. Blubberlip snapper. Baracouda. Malabar grouper. Yellowfin Trevally. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Roach. Pike. European Eel. Bleak.
Species caught in 2012: Northern whiting. Moray eel. Barramundi. Snakehead murrel. Silver razorbelly minnow. Deccan Mahseer. Malabar mystus. Deccan rita. Spotted Malabar Grouper. Mangrove Jack. Indian sea catfish. Brown Trout. Chub. Perch. Roach. Rudd.
Species caught in 2011: Indian sea catfish. Sardine. Barramundi. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpbacked Mahseer. Yellow Fin Trevelly. Giant Trevelly. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Pike. Atlantic salmon. Dace. Minnow. Roach. Gudgeon. 
Species caught in 2010: Barramundi. Giant Trevelly. Moray eel. Indian sea catfish. Mangrove Jack. Deccan Mahseer. Humpback Mahseer. Chub. Brown Trout. Perch. Bass. Pike. 
Species caught in 2009: Chub. Perch. Pike. Pacu. Thai Striped Catfish. 
Species caught in 2008: Barramundi. p-i-k-e-y sea bream. Indian sea catfish. Guitarfish. Mangrove Jack. Mahseer. Squid (Not strictly a fish but it took a lure !). Emperor Sweetlip. Black Spot Snapper. Moray eel. Spangled Emperor. Bluecheek silver grunt. Yellow striped emperor. Vanikoro sweeper. Pike. Perch. Brown trout. Chub. Atlantic salmon.