immigrants eat all the fish, and finish off with a swan....

[Steve Walker]

Not true! Killing a swan could possibly have been construed as a technical act of treason (as most belong to the queen) - though the death penalty for this was removed from the statute books in 1998. There are now no crimes in the UK punisable with the death penalty (in peace time)....

 

In war time, just leave the pigeons alone...

 

Youtube Video ->Original Video

[YosserHughes]

Not sure I actually believe most of these stories; certainly not to the extent that the Daily Mail chooses to believe it. Also, many of the idiot readers who resonded to the article are immigrants themselves (i.e ex-pats). I particularly liked this one:

 

"A lot of these people who perpetrate this crime would love to go to jail - if they are sleeping rough, then a warm bed and 3 squares, is a good thing. Seriously though, killing Swans and fishing in illegal methods should carry a prison sentence - in their own country, we catch 'em, we send 'em back why should we put them in our jails -they have perfectly good ones there"

 

Thanks very much for that Dr Goebbels!

 

[watatoad]

Not true! Killing a swan could possibly have been construed as a technical act of treason (as most belong to the queen) - though the death penalty for this was removed from the statute books in 1998. There are now no crimes in the UK punisable with the death penalty (in peace time)....

 

 

C.

 

A few questions for you all.

 

What do you think the punishment should be now?

 

What do you think the punishment would be if we adopted Sharia Law (Muslim/Islamic Law) in this country?

 

What do you think the punishment should be for any immigrant or migrant ignoring English/British Laws now?

 

What do you think should happen to immigrants and or migrants who come to live in the U.K. one must assume because they like what they have heard about our way of life and our culture. Yet as soon as they arrive they disrespect our way of life and reject our culture then insist we adopt their ways of life and culture which I remind you they have already chosen to leave in favour of ours and now many some want us to change from our old Saxon based laws for their religious laws?

 

EDIT:

The introduction of Sharia Law would mean the instant re-introduction of the death penalty (and it is death by several means e.g. stoning, decapitation, etc.) and a full range of corporal punishments from cutting off limbs to whipping and caning.

Edited April 21, 2010 by watatoad

[Anderoo]

Why should punishment for a crime vary depending on whether you were born here or moved here?

 

Legal immigration to the UK is popular because (despite the vocal minority) this is the most tolerant country in Europe. Long may it remain so.

 

Yet as soon as they arrive they disrespect our way of life and reject our culture then insist we adopt their ways of life and culture which I remind you they have already chosen to leave in favour of ours and now many some want us to change from our old Saxon based laws for their religious laws?

 

Like calling for Islamic law?

[watatoad]

Why should punishment for a crime vary depending on whether you were born here or moved here?

 

Legal immigration to the UK is popular because (despite the vocal minority) this is the most tolerant country in Europe. Long may it remain so.

 

 

 

Like calling for Islamic law?

 

That is what I had previously said.

 

Whats wrong with you don't you read the threads properly? Perhaps in view of many posting on AN and you in particular, live to your own statement as you are incredibly intolerant of any who fail to follow your unpatriotic, anti British pubic and culture views. I guess you must be into some sort of dictatorship left or right there is no difference both suppress the rights of the individual for the sole benefit of those leading the state machine.

 

The reason to introduce Sharia Law is many migrants and immigrants are choosing to completely refuse to accept our Saxon Law.

 

You seem to assume I am some right wing white supremacist. All I am is an ordinary man proud to be British and one without a racist bone in his body. I have been to just about every country in the world and I believe when in Rome live as the Romans do. Therefore when in Britain live as the British do, as you will find is required in every other country in the world. Are you proposing that we should accept someone p*****g up our backs and telling us its raining? We have just had a bellyful of that with our outgoing government, all sides of the house.

Edited April 21, 2010 by watatoad

[Steve Walker]

What do you think the punishment should be now?

 

Depends on the context. If the bird is owned (not by the crown, that's a silly anachronism which only really remains for traditional and ceremonial purposes), it is theft and criminal damage, and should be treated as such. If it is wild, we have a question of whether swans should be treated in law like those species of ducks and geese which wildfowlers are allowed to shoot or whether they should be treated like most other wild birds.

 

What do you think the punishment would be if we adopted Sharia Law (Muslim/Islamic Law) in this country?

 

I don't think Sharia law has much at all to say about animal welfare or the protection of wildlife, so unless theft or criminal damage were involved I wouldn't think the punishment would be anything. In the case of theft, it's possible that prison or amputation would be the penalty, however it seems that "petty theft" does not incur amputation, nor when the criminal is not "adult, sane, has stolen from a secure place, was not under compulsion or misery, and does not repent before the crime is proved, among other conditions". So I would guess either prison or nothing at all.

 

(Not sure about the relevance of Sharia law when the alleged perpetrators are from Eastern European countries more devoutly Christian than we are, though)

Edited April 21, 2010 by Steve Walker

[Tigger]

Way too many Brits who ignore our laws and rules and do nothing for our 'culture' in my opinion!

 

Welcome to AN Robert

 

 

So if there's that many already here, what's the point in bringing in more !

[chesters1]

That is what I had previously said.

 

Whats wrong with you don't you read the threads properly? Perhaps in view of many posting on AN and you in particular, live to your own statement as you are incredibly intolerant of any who fail to follow your anti British pubic and culture views. I guess you must be into some sort of dictatorship left or right there is no difference both suppress the rights of the individual for the sole benefit of those leading the state machine.

 

The reason to introduce Sharia Law is many migrants and immigrants are choosing to completely refuse to accept our Saxon Law.

 

our "saxon " law is going pretty fast ,since the uptake of the lisbon fiasco 90,000 new laws are based on the Napoleonic system.

whereas our laws meant everything is legal unless laws make it illegal the new EU laws make it the opposite where everything is illegal unless legalised in law

 

of course the gov welcome these laws it makes our police state almost mandatory

Edited April 21, 2010 by chesters1

[Anderoo]

That is what I had previously said.

 

Whats wrong with you don't you read the threads properly? Perhaps in view of many posting on AN and you in particular, live to your own statement as you are incredibly intolerant of any who fail to follow your anti British pubic and culture views. I guess you must be into some sort of dictatorship left or right there is no difference both suppress the rights of the individual for the sole benefit of those leading the state machine.

 

The reason to introduce Sharia Law is many migrants and immigrants are choosing to completely refuse to accept our Saxon Law.

 

Sorry, I must be misunderstanding you. Would you mind answering these questions so I can be clear what your point is please?

 

- Should UK law be different for immigrants?

- Should Sharia law only apply to immigrants?

- Where are you getting your information that as soon as [immigrants] arrive they disrespect our way of life and reject our culture then insist we adopt their ways of life and culture?

- Why is my view that legal immigration is not the end of this once great nation more intolerant than the counter view? (I thought I was very tolerant.)

- Do you think that immigrants are more criminal in their behaviour than native brits? If so, what is that based on?

- When you think of someone having the life knocked out them by by a baying crowd chucking rocks so you get just a little bit excited?

 

And I really must contest the view that I am anti british pubic

[Anderoo]

So if there's that many already here, what's the point in bringing in more !

 

A fair question Tigger, but a different one!