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Andrew,

 

Perhaps I can help. That is, if you are looking for an answer.

 

Free Speech: The right to free speech is not absolute in any country and is subject to limitations, such as on libel, slander, obscenity, incitement to commit a crime, etc. Not laws, laws are usually what you cannot do, not what you can do.

 

Free Expression: everyone shall have the right to free expression; this right shall include ideas. Free expression also carries responsibilities and are subject to restrictions when necessary including, the rights of others, national security, public order, public health, or social morals - - -

 

Morality is a matter of locality. For example, in some places a nice rare dog hind quarter steak is permissible.

 

IMO, in every respect, since this happened in Britian, she exceeded the bounds of morality. The reason she said and did what she did was probably because she is ill in some form. Not because she has a right. She didn't.

 

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Thank you for that, is that the American freedom of speech bill, or it it a global thing.

 

As my last post stated, i have said what i think, thats all, foreigners have said this and that about freedom of speech, and hit on racism. all in Britain/England. I just added another aspect into the frey. bringing other countries into the debate just to show it does happen in " their countries ".

 

As usual it was more or less rubbished because the press reporting it could not speak Spanish. Now to me, thats not right you see, if you heavily criticize a country where you do not live, then your home country can come under the spotlight just the same as the country under debate.

I have read all that people have said about my home country, and took it on the chin, but now i decided to put a new slant on the debate, bring another country into it. Equal footing, or can i not practise that freedom in the eye's of the other posters, maybe they will say tit fort tat tactics. Not so, say i, just showing that every country has its racist issues.

 

Does that make me racist, judging by some of the past posters remarks, it would 100% make me a racist., like it or not. Maybe people are blinkered by their new utopian lifestyle.

"La conclusión es que los insultos sólo perjudican cuando vienen de alguien que respeto". e5006689.gif

“Vescere bracis meis”

 

 

 

 

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Andrew,

 

Second part first. You are a racist if you believe British are different than anyone else. Dictionary: the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others. You tell me?

 

First part. Wiki

 

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Just practicing my freedom of speech, showing that racism even happen in the most Utopian countries. Seems fair dint you think when England is the brunt of foreigners outbursts, ooh does that sound racist to you, or is it freedom of speech as what is being quoted very often. Or is that just the rights of our foregn chums to mention time and time again. Strange when an Englishman states such saying they are classed as a racist, but a foregner saying it, its freedom of speech.

 

So the Olive press have no right to print such details/freedom of speech because they dont speak Spanish.

 

A very odd connection to the term freedom of speech, i still find the link to a "story that supposedly happened" several years ago, very strange.

 

The reason that people give publications like that like credibility is exactly the fact that they have few if any fluent Spanish speakers.

 

It means their "news" is obtained from 3rd party sources, often already translated to English, many times with a political slant on the translation imparted depending on the original destination for the article.

 

I have lost count of the times i have had phone calls from publications such as this asking me to tell them what a certain article on "page 5 of El Pais meant".

 

Imagine you had a paper published in Britain about British life, but none or very few of the writers understood English....Would you give it credibility?

 

They have the right to print stories as they wish, it doesn't mean that they have credibility.

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Phone. I do not believe for one second that being BRITISH IS BEING BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD.

 

What i do take offense at is being labeled a racist, by being called outright or by snide remarks.

 

I find that very, very offensive. Some posters have a certain knack of turning the tables onto others, when they have posted something, IMHO not nice.

 

I can, and will continue to have my say on matters, unless the owner of the site, namely Elton Murphy says i cannot partake in any more debates.

And i will continue to defend my country when i see fit.

 

If posters don't like that, then deal with it, but one thing for sure, i WILL not be called a racist. Does some of the replies made by other posters stink of racism ? re read some of the replies and go figure.

 

 

As for the captain, whatever i say you will rubbish, simple as that. Pointless saying any more on the subject to you. IMHO, Spain, according to you, can do no wrong, has the perfect legal system etc, again IMHO. Does that make me a racist also. :bye1:

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"La conclusión es que los insultos sólo perjudican cuando vienen de alguien que respeto". e5006689.gif

“Vescere bracis meis”

 

 

 

 

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Andrew,

 

Tell the dictionary folks to re-define "racist". I cut and paste. You say, by their standards - you're racist. Not a bad thing - just fact.

 

You're the one coming across as "hard headed".

 

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err its the English that are superior to everyone else not the british trash :D

ask germans who they fought against its "aaaiiieeee englander spitfuer devil" not "himmel its a british resident on my tail" :rolleyes:

half the world probably doesnt know where britain is because all the signs point to england

nothing wrong with pride in your country even less wrong telling foreigners to get out of it even even less telling foreign powers to stop telling us what to do.

being ruled by outsiders ,told what to say and having your rights taken away is what foreign countries have done to them

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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As for the captain, whatever i say you will rubbish, simple as that. Pointless saying any more on the subject to you. IMHO, Spain, according to you, can do no wrong, has the perfect legal system etc, again IMHO.

 

That is certainly not something i have ever said, so i have no idea where you have got that from????

 

You appear to imagine insults that are not there? ;)

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That is certainly not something i have ever said, so i have no idea where you have got that from????

 

You appear to imagine insults that are not there? ;)

 

 

Hello Captain, how the devil r you, havn't spoken for ages, hope all is very more than well. :thumbs:

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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