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I have had a look around and I've found some sites that say that fishing is banned and others showing folks carp fishing.

 

You are not thinking of visiting the Middle East are you?

Yes, I've never been to Israel which seems a bit odd for a vicar. Strangely, I'm not as bothered about seeing the sites as many would be. The thing that I think would connect me to the days of Jesus more than anything would be catching the same fish that his disciples caught. I fear that carp would spoil it!

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Here is a partial list of fish present

 

Galil Amnon (Musht Aviad - Sarotherodon galilaeus - Galilee St. Peter's Fish).
Jordan Amnon (Musht Lubad - Oreochromis aureus-Blue tilapia or Jordan St. Peter's Fish)
Longhead Barbel (Karsin - Barbus longiceps - Longhead barbel)
Large scale Barbel (Binit Kishri - Barbus canis-Large scale barbel)
Hafaf Israeli (Hafafi - Capoeta damascina - Damascus barbel)
Kinneret Lavnun (Tiberias sardine - Mirogrex terraesanctea terraesanctae - Kinneret bleak)
Low Eye Kassif (Kasif - Hypophthalmichthys molitrix - Silver carp)
Kifon Burri (Mullet - Mugil cephalus - Grey mullet - Burri).
Common Catfish (Barbout - Clarias gariepinus - Catfish) species of catfish - fish edible, but is not kosher.

 

More information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_in_Israel#Sea_of_Galilee

 

Do you also need a recipe for the loaves ?

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World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

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Yes, I've never been to Israel which seems a bit odd for a vicar. Strangely, I'm not as bothered about seeing the sites as many would be. The thing that I think would connect me to the days of Jesus more than anything would be catching the same fish that his disciples caught. I fear that carp would spoil it!

Why is it odd jews moslems christians and a few others worship or recognise the same god only their interpretation of it is different ,jesus was a jew ,by jewish law his mum must have been but not god himself maybe ?

The local tame moslems here believe jesus didnt die on the cross much to the annoyance of the other not so tame moslems.

So i see no reason a vicar cannot visit the area where its all supposed to have started the con but be warned jews are not just picking on moslems in their quest to take jerusalem (and onward)

Remember when boat fishing fish from the right side

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Tench,

 

At the risk of trying to "teach" a Vicar (which I certainly am not) I'll tell it as it was taught to me in Sunday School. Once upon a time:

 

The fish were anchovies and the number well may have been "the number" of nets full. It was made into a paste, guts and all, an experiment we also tried in Sunday School. It's awful !!

 

As Vagabond pointed out there are also catfish. Catfish are not kosher because they don't have scales.

 

On the West Bank in the 21st century for the most part they catch tiny mullet (I didn't learn this part in Sunday School). Mullet were also in Lake Gailee 2000 year ago. The anchovies were just in much larger and tighter "balls".

 

I didn't catch a mullet but you can do so along some of the small sea walls. You don't need a hook. A piece of string and tiny lump of bacon. (I didn't see that done first hand - just fisherman talk)

 

Phone

 

Believe it or not - - - - you are not the first to have "your wish". It is a cottage industry of guides.

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Here is a partial list of fish present

 

Galil Amnon (Musht Aviad - Sarotherodon galilaeus - Galilee St. Peter's Fish).

Jordan Amnon (Musht Lubad - Oreochromis aureus-Blue tilapia or Jordan St. Peter's Fish)

Longhead Barbel (Karsin - Barbus longiceps - Longhead barbel)

Large scale Barbel (Binit Kishri - Barbus canis-Large scale barbel)

Hafaf Israeli (Hafafi - Capoeta damascina - Damascus barbel)

Kinneret Lavnun (Tiberias sardine - Mirogrex terraesanctea terraesanctae - Kinneret bleak)

Low Eye Kassif (Kasif - Hypophthalmichthys molitrix - Silver carp)

Kifon Burri (Mullet - Mugil cephalus - Grey mullet - Burri).

Common Catfish (Barbout - Clarias gariepinus - Catfish) species of catfish - fish edible, but is not kosher.

 

More information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_in_Israel#Sea_of_Galilee

 

Do you also need a recipe for the loaves ?

Thanks, Dave. I found an article that said they had to introduce a 2 year ban on commercial fishing in 2010 because of over-fishing, so I must say I'm not too optimistic that they will allow rod and line.

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Tench,

 

At the risk of trying to "teach" a Vicar (which I certainly am not) I'll tell it as it was taught to me in Sunday School. Once upon a time:

 

The fish were anchovies and the number well may have been "the number" of nets full. It was made into a paste, guts and all, an experiment we also tried in Sunday School. It's awful !!

 

As Vagabond pointed out there are also catfish. Catfish are not kosher because they don't have scales.

 

On the West Bank in the 21st century for the most part they catch tiny mullet (I didn't learn this part in Sunday School). Mullet were also in Lake Gailee 2000 year ago. The anchovies were just in much larger and tighter "balls".

 

I didn't catch a mullet but you can do so along some of the small sea walls. You don't need a hook. A piece of string and tiny lump of bacon. (I didn't see that done first hand - just fisherman talk)

 

Phone

 

Believe it or not - - - - you are not the first to have "your wish". It is a cottage industry of guides.

I'm surprised to hear about the anchovies, cos I thought they were a sea fish - but interesting to hear about the mullet!

 

Yes, I'd have expected angling for 'Peter fish' to be a bit of a cottage industry, but I haven't found anything on the web, nor have (non angling) firends who have been there seen anyone angling.

john clarke

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Fishbase doesn't detain the Sea if Galilee as an ecosystem, but it does list freshwater species found in Israel.

 

http://www.fishbase.org/Country/CountryChecklist.php?what=list&trpp=50&c_code=376&csub_code=&cpresence=Reported&sortby=alpha&ext_pic=on&vhabitat=fresh

Species caught in 2020: Barbel. European Eel. Bleak. Perch. Pike.

Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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Phone, Are you sure that "anchovies" is not an (inexact) synonym for the Tiberias Sardine in post #16 ?

 

(The fish in question is actually a small cyprinid - Kinneret Bleak !!)

 

The "kapenta" of Lake Kariba in Zimbabwe are variously referred to as "sardines" and "anchovies"

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RNLI Governor

 

World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

"Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato

...only things like fresh bait and cold beer...

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Vagabond,

 

No science on my part - - - - - - just religious SUNDAY SCHOOL. (I'm pretty sure my Sunday school teacher didn't know)

 

Any "corrections" (including the fisherman himself) is ok by me.

 

The non sunday school part was by observation whilst in the region.

 

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