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The argument from personal incredulity. Just because yyou can't get your head around something does not mean it's not true.

 

What's true is the failure of the cap, cfp and the schengan agreement and that is the whole ethos of the e u, a fail. Forgot to mention the euro.

 

Now as the whole of this topic contains nothing of note to support the e u super state, or why, do you have anything in your google box that does? Or are you going to yet again use your text above to describe yourself, sport.


Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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What happens to the cod quota barry if we come out locker trawlers at whitby have invested millions in buying quota do they get compensation do they lose it all is it all shared out again amoung every boat with with numbers on its side it a very tricky one the under 10ss have been hammered over the years i can bet the big boys want to stay in as they wont want to surrender there cod quota and when all the holiday makers realize if we come out of Europe no more cheap contraband they will all be jumping up and down to stay in the press will decide if we stay because it will be rammed down peoples throats weeks before any referendum.the torys run the media so it will be a big to YES STAY IN..


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What happens to the cod quota barry if we come out locker trawlers at whitby have invested millions in buying quota do they get compensation do they lose it all is it all shared out again amoung every boat with with numbers on its side it a very tricky one the under 10ss have been hammered over the years i can bet the big boys want to stay in as they wont want to surrender there cod quota and when all the holiday makers realize if we come out of Europe no more cheap contraband they will all be jumping up and down to stay in the press will decide if we stay because it will be rammed down peoples throats weeks before any referendum.the torys run the media so it will be a big to YES STAY IN..

 

Weren't the u k government who put value on quota was it. I care very much about the inbalance between the over tens and the under tens.

97% of all quota is given to the overtens, who make up 25% of the u k fleet. So the undertens 75% of the u k fleet get 3% of quota issued. About time the quota was distributed throughout the u k fleet. You as a socialist labour supporter and daily mirror reader must agree with that, surely? :) Taking the failed cfp management from the eu after 30 years may well be the best thing since sliced bread. The rubbish fisheries management is continuing where the e u has all but shut down the u k bass charter boat fleet, c/o TAT and the bass club. Toss pots they really are. Regarding cheap contraband, about time we took control of our borders again, bring it on. As for trading with Europe, the u k buys more than it sells so the germans will certainly wish to protect their u k market for the motors it sells. Anything that is positive to remain in? Haven't seen anything of note yet.

 

Cameron is under pressure from the dissenters at the mo, public opinion appears to have gone against him since his errrrrrrrm 'successful' e u negotiations. Even those staunch buropiles are now intimating that if the u k wish to leave let them go.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/641461/EU-renegotiation-deal-David-Cameron-Brussels-Martin-Schulz-reversible

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I'd have thought that the prospect of an Icelandic style 50 mile limit would have the UK's fishermen jumping up and down with glee.

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Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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I'd have thought that the prospect of an Icelandic style 50 mile limit would have the UK's fishermen jumping up and down with glee.

yup, following the u k's integration into the then common market, the u k was left 13% of uk fishing waters, very many thousands lost their jobs, the rest was shared out between our europeon chums. Ted Heath sorted that one out for us. :rolleyes: Now we have a situation with the over bloated e u fleet where e u tax payers monies are being spent, upgrading and bringing upto date the over bloated fleet, new engines for the over tens, no problem.


Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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yup, following the u k's integration into the then common market, the u k was left 13% of uk fishing waters, very many thousands lost their jobs, the rest was shared out between our europeon chums. Ted Heath sorted that one out for us. :rolleyes: Now we have a situation with the over bloated e u fleet where e u tax payers monies are being spent, upgrading and bringing upto date the over bloated fleet, new engines for the over tens, no problem.

 

I love this bit about giving money tax payers money to fishermen who make there living from the sea grants for this grants for that anybody else who makes there living from sea dont exist its bullshit we all try and making our living out there its a very harse enviroment its mad unless you live in southern ireland . Let me tell you there are some very worried fishermen who have bought litteraly millions of pounds of cod quota they must be panicking if its a vote to go fishermen will turn against fishermen a free for all will emerge and the winners on paper will be the under 10ss but as you and i know money talks .

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I love this bit about giving money tax payers money to fishermen who make there living from the sea grants for this grants for that anybody else who makes there living from sea dont exist its bullshit we all try and making our living out there its a very harse enviroment its mad unless you live in southern ireland . Let me tell you there are some very worried fishermen who have bought litteraly millions of pounds of cod quota they must be panicking if its a vote to go fishermen will turn against fishermen a free for all will emerge and the winners on paper will be the under 10ss but as you and i know money talks .

 

 

No no no, those who wish to remain fishing e u waters with cod quota, reflag under the euro and carry on fishing under the very successful e u regime :icecream: . Then they can carry on as is if the u k votes to leave. Then all the u k need to do is to grant the e u boats licences for a remuneration of course if they wish to fish the u k waters. That's providing there's spare cod on the ground after the u k boats have had theirs. :thumbs:

 

both the cfp and the cap are exactly the same, wasting squiilions of taxpayers monies endless black hole economy without checks and balances.

 

Corbyn is recommending the u k remain in. That's after he spent years on the back benches sounding off that the u k need out.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I've posted this before but.......

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uyBr9RNx4k0

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Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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Ouch, Ted heaths involvement: pretending the common market is something it is not. Comes on to loss of sovereignty. no question of Britain loosing 'essential' national sovereignty. words used misleading, dishonesty.

 

The video goes on to state that apart from loosing sovereignty, the u k has also lost most, if not all it's opportunity of veto. and that fundamentally is the u k's loss of democracy to the federal state of the e u.

 

and as for brown signing the Lisbon treaty with the claim that the same treaty, rejected by two sovereign states is not one and the same, just about sums up the history of the lying wheeler dealing that the government, premiers and the e u super state have carried out against the tax payers. Is Cameron carrying on with the deceit?

 

Last but not least, what benefit for the u k's trade with the e u? Always it has been at a deficit, yet with the rest of the world it is positive. The e u certainly does not like the u k trading directly with the rest of the world.


Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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:clap3: Leave the EU and we get our 200 mile limit back, sort the quotas out of that, should be plenty of spare fish then. Ted heath should have been hung, drawn and quartered and his head put on a spike on Tower Bridge for treason. He sold the UK down the river to the EU because he wanted to be the person that got the UK in to the EU. No EU, no Brussels directives, no CFP, no bird directives, we can shoot vermin again, no EU, WE'RE FREE! :clap3:

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