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Presumably, EU citizens living in the UK will get a vote and now it seems that work has stared on drumming up support for continued membership from Bits living in the EU.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-referendum-embassies-around-europe-enlist-britains-expatriate-community-to-vote-a6842661.html

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Species caught in 2019: Pike. Bream. Tench. Chub. Common Carp. European Eel. Barbel. Bleak. Dace.

Species caught in 2018: Perch. Bream. Rainbow Trout. Brown Trout. Chub. Roach. Carp. European Eel.

Species caught in 2017: Siamese carp. Striped catfish. Rohu. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Black Minnow Shark. Perch. Chub. Brown Trout. Pike. Bream. Roach. Rudd. Bleak. Common Carp.

Species caught in 2016: Siamese carp. Jullien's golden carp. Striped catfish. Mekong catfish. Amazon red tail catfish. Arapaima. Alligator gar. Rohu. Black Minnow Shark. Roach, Bream, Perch, Ballan Wrasse. Rudd. Common Carp. Pike. Zander. Chub. Bleak.

Species caught in 2015: Brown Trout. Roach. Bream. Terrapin. Eel. Barbel. Pike. Chub.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35441066

 

How many more to loose their jobs before the managers manage to manage? Why is there a need to import steel all the way from china when it is being manufactured at home. Who's fault is it? Weren't the u k's for the imbalance caused in the cost of making the stuff.


Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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that's not the question. You could easily add that they have enjoyed a permanent farming subsidy,yet the u k has given back the rebate for imbalance, more fish quota from the channel 70% cod quota and for a none quota species, 9 times more bass take than the u k, they have landed more year on year creating an alleged stock falling off a cliff. Yet the u k charter fishing fleet are the ones in the firing line. etc etc. The question really is why should the u k be part of this continued imbalance and to what benefit to the u k.

 

the French economy and unemployment don't look too special at the mo does it.

 

The u k appears to be, being held back by the e u state.

 

Did you read Bernhard Inghams comments yesterday,

 

quote: “Why should the U.K. throw another £12 billion a year down these mafia and assorted criminal drains?” Ingham wrote this week in the Yorkshire Post. “Why we should ever want to be a member of it at all when the institution is corrupt and so riddled with fraud that the auditors have felt unable to sign off its accounts for nigh on 20 years.”

It's my question. Since when did you get to choose what questions one asks. You said

The biggest argument the u k prime minister has with the e u at the mo, is who controls the u k benefit payments, looks like the e u does.

 

So what are you saying that the EU controls the benefits in EVERY country in the EU or just the UKs?


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quote you: So explain why France has a much more generous benefits system than do we?

 

ok i'll give you my interpretation, france doesn't have a better system otherwise there wouldn't be 3000 economic ,migrants queuing up to leave would there? and why is the unelected euro honcho speaking to Cameron tonight instigating the foisting of e u benefit law on the u k without consultation. Bunch of dictators somewhat, you would have to agree, wouldn't you?: France's unemployment and financial situation looks down in the dumps. Perhaps they are living outside of their means..

 

Answer the question re the cap and the cfp, then answer one regarding u k's benefit of remaining in the club. More important questions in my mind as opposed to social payments.

 

Have you heard the one where the e u wants all the countries to have a minimum of 5 % vat on everything, including food, think the u k tax payers will stomach that one?

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Cory,

 

Your question comes around to the basic question. What is a "FAIR SHARE"? I tend to agree with barry in that based on strength of economy you would have a huge responsibility (which he doesn't admit to). Based on "citizens per sq/m" you are already well overburdened.

 

IMO (just me) benefits are a by-product of civilized societies. No country in history as yet gone broke paying benefits.

 

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France does pay more in benefits to Asylum seekers than the UK. That is why there is only 3000 queuing up to get to the UK compared to more than three time that who apply for asylum in France.

Most of the migrants who want to get into UK are not doing it for the benefits, it is because they speak English or they already have friends or family living in the UK.

Remember, this is just asylum seekers. Illegal immigrants get nothing.

Now illegal immigrants might want to get into UK because they believe that UK employers are more likely to give them a job "on the black" than French employers and they might be right.

To live and work in France or to get into the healthcare system you need to be registered and have a Siret number (like a social security number). If, as a householder, I employ someone to supply goods or services without checking their Siret number then I am committing an offence and could be punished severely. A lot of British anglers who come to France to fish are purchasing the fishing and if the fishery owner does not have a Siret number then the angler is committing an offence and could be fined heavily and have all fishing tackle (and the vehicle used to transport it) confiscated. Registered fisheries tend to charge more as they pay tax on their income.

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Successful asylum seekers in the u k are treated very well. However according to the chief u k immigration lawyer last week he intimated that most in northern france are economic migrants. Most of these guys don't hold a passport. A lot of them now claim they are from Syria If they was asylum seekers they would go through the right channels as opposed to jumping into the backs of lorries in their attempts to get across the channel.

 

Here is one example of who and what is in the camp: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35385232

 

Both Afghanistan and Somalia are classed as post conflict, so there is no way they can now be classed as asylum seekers and the guy who heads up this example clearly puts that point across.

Very few have relatives in the u k, those who do have to justify to the u k courts why they are entitled to enter. I note there are very many migrant lawyers circling the camp. Rich pickings for the few I would suggest.

 

the u k has rigid legislation already in place for those employers who are caught employing illegals. It is down to the employer to check on the individuals immigration status and the fine per each guy is £10,000.00, no discretion or discount. I have seen restaurant owners being fined £40,000.00 for example, not to be sniffed at. So I can't see why there would be an incentive to employ illegals in the u k.


Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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You can have millions of laws in place but it comes down to the chances of getting caught! One resturant in one of those programs was a serial offender so obviously the fines are far to small and the chances of getting caught smaller

The really stupid thing is those without ID showing where their from are taken away then just released on a promise they will sign in at a police station like buggery they do and they disapear until their caught next time

Lorries being confiscate and million £ fines for employers would slow it but as i say its all down to being caught and those that get here know full well the chance of being deported if they hide or destroy their ID is tiny

Another con is education visas where even if the holder gets education they can still work 20 hours a week ,stop them working for every two thats a job gone others could do

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Successful asylum seekers in the u k are treated very well. However according to the chief u k immigration lawyer last week he intimated that most in northern france are economic migrants. Most of these guys don't hold a passport. A lot of them now claim they are from Syria If they was asylum seekers they would go through the right channels as opposed to jumping into the backs of lorries in their attempts to get across the channel.

 

Here is one example of who and what is in the camp: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35385232

 

Both Afghanistan and Somalia are classed as post conflict, so there is no way they can now be classed as asylum seekers and the guy who heads up this example clearly puts that point across.

Very few have relatives in the u k, those who do have to justify to the u k courts why they are entitled to enter. I note there are very many migrant lawyers circling the camp. Rich pickings for the few I would suggest.

 

the u k has rigid legislation already in place for those employers who are caught employing illegals. It is down to the employer to check on the individuals immigration status and the fine per each guy is £10,000.00, no discretion or discount. I have seen restaurant owners being fined £40,000.00 for example, not to be sniffed at. So I can't see why there would be an incentive to employ illegals in the u k.

The argument from personal incredulity. Just because yyou can't get your head around something does not mean it's not true.


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You can have millions of laws in place but it comes down to the chances of getting caught! One resturant in one of those programs was a serial offender so obviously the fines are far to small and the chances of getting caught smaller

The really stupid thing is those without ID showing where their from are taken away then just released on a promise they will sign in at a police station like buggery they do and they disapear until their caught next time

Lorries being confiscate and million £ fines for employers would slow it but as i say its all down to being caught and those that get here know full well the chance of being deported if they hide or destroy their ID is tiny

Another con is education visas where even if the holder gets education they can still work 20 hours a week ,stop them working for every two thats a job gone others could do

Absolutely right mate, Iif being asked nicely does not work, smack 'em hard in the pocket


The problem isn't what people don't know, it's what they know that just ain't so.
Vaut mieux ne rien dire et passer pour un con que de parler et prouver que t'en est un!
Mi, ch’fais toudis à m’mote

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