Fuel prices...

[chesters1]

Bedroom window ! Luxury ! We used to sit in front of the open fridge it was warmer than the room !

[chesters1]

On 7/30/2022 at 1:05 AM, Huge_Vitae said:

It’s very simple and harkens back to the days of economy 7 and the things they transitioned into, basically off peak electric.

Smart meters will make electric cars cheaper to charge overnight using off peak electricity, it makes sense because otherwise a high proportion of energy is wasted, better to sell it cheap than lose it. But there is the problem, as soon as the number of electric cars increases and more people are charging them overnight at off peak rates the demand increases and before long there is no such thing as low demand, electric will no longer be cheap because there is no demand quite simply because there is demand. Renewable energy will not keep pace with the extra demand from battery charging at night (no solar) and so the problem escalates, we will probably see a new design of petrol or diesel powered power stations because the demand for those will fall.

Plenty of ways to remove carbon pollution from the atmosphere, problem is getting people to pay for it.

 

Mark my words the government will instruct utility companies to raise prices when you charge your car (All chargers are "smart" ) they are not going to lose billions inrevenuee they get from fuel duty they do now ,and with the help of your smart meter tea time use is going to cost you more aswell ,these smart meters arent here for you they are here for switching you off when you get behind in your now very expensive bills . My advice is make a Faraday shield around your meter and f.uck them! If your vehical needs a full night of charging you may not have enough time to do it! Thats probably the "user interface" on the bit i quoted ? Press button if you want to be charged really expensive rates at peak time .

 

 

How to comply

The regulations state that charge points sold for the intended private charging of vehicles must meet certain device-level requirements, which include:

• smart functionality, including the ability to send and receive information, the ability to respond to signals to increase the rate or time at which electricity flows through the charge point, demand side response services and a user interface

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/regulations-electric-vehicle-smart-charge-points

This ofcourse will be implemented for nothing more than an "opt in" giving the impression you have choice to pay to charge at a vastly increased rate at peak times (how long is peak times i bet they're getting bigger) but if a vehicle needs 12 hours to reach full charge (that last 25% takes ages) your choice is just on paper not reality if you want your car fully charged you WILL be opting in

Edited July 31, 2022 by chesters1

[Huge_Vitae]

On 7/30/2022 at 8:06 PM, Blackbird said:

Diesel powered power stations really? Can't see it, 

Was a bit tongue in cheek. Trouble is with “oil” having such global power (money) and Politicians sucking up to them “WE” will have to keep buying it, if we don’t use it in engines what we going to do, drink it!

Edited July 31, 2022 by Huge_Vitae

[Blackbird]

There is a 3 part documentary on i player outlining the deceit oil companies used in hiding the facts regarding warming and fossil fuels. That started back in the 70s and still oil is used as the acceptable face of corruption and power. 

Exon invested in alternative energy, and the new head of company tore the whole thing up, because he was a dyed in the wool oil man. 

We need Government backed technology to bring change, but the dilemma is the likes of Saudi have a bottomless pit of money and influence to prevent or at least stall progress.

 

[chesters1]

Why dont we just remove the CO2 from the chimneys of gas generators ,they are using a big stick to hit the end user not the supplier.

Yes our ovens and boilers will produce CO2 so improve them aswell ,its crazy penalising everyone forcing people to install heat pumps which still will use electric to work

Ditching known science that works and trying to go over to science that partly works (when the sun shines and the wind blows ) is crazy

[Huge_Vitae]

An apposite letter in the Daily Telegraph Today

SIR – Following the lead of David Frost (Comment, August 5) and Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (Business, August 5), we must ask how we can continue in an environment where activists insist that we can escape the current energy crisis simply by using less electricity.

We must ask how money to help those in poverty can be provided by an economy that has collapsed because there is no electricity available. The answer, of course, is that it can’t; more lives are likely to be lost due to starvation than are likely to be lost as a result of global warming.

The electricity industry will continue to justify its actions by blaming us for using too much power, rather than putting its own house in order.

This cynical approach is illustrated by the almost indecent pressure that is being put on us to have smart meters. When energy rationing begins, as it shortly will, suppliers will be able to control your smart meter to provide electricity at peak times, and at a vastly inflated premium. 

This can be done on an individual basis, so saving the need for whole areas to be cut off at peak demand times, as well as providing an extra source of revenue. Those of us with old, conventional meters cannot be controlled in this way.

Professor R G Faulkner
Loughborough, Leicestershire

[Ken L]

Simply wrapping your smart meter in tin foil will prevent it from accessing a cell network and allowing the power company to control usage.

Just saying.....

[Huge_Vitae]

16 minutes ago, Ken L said:

Simply wrapping your smart meter in tin foil will prevent it from accessing a cell network and allowing the power company to control usage.

Just saying.....

A man calls Pizza hut to order a pizza...
CALLER:  Is this Pizza Hut?
GOOGLE:    No sir, it's Google Pizza.
CALLER:  I must have dialed a wrong number, sorry.
GOOGLE:  No sir, Google bought Pizza Hut last month.
CALLER:  OK. I would like to order a pizza.
GOOGLE:  Do you want your usual, sir?
CALLER:  My usual? You know me?
GOOGLE:  According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza with three cheeses, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms and meatballs on a thick crust.
CALLER:  Super! That’s what I’ll have.
GOOGLE:  May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and olives on a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?
CALLER:  What? I don’t want a vegetarian pizza!
GOOGLE:  Your cholesterol is not good, sir.
CALLER:  How  do you know that?
GOOGLE:  Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records. We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
CALLER:  Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetarian pizza!  I already take medication for my cholesterol.
GOOGLE: Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly.  According to our database, you purchased only a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once at Lloyds Pharmacy, 4 months ago.
CALLER:  I bought more from another Pharmacy.
GOOGLE:  That doesn’t show on your credit card statement.
CALLER: I paid in cash.
GOOGLE:  But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.
CALLER:  I have other sources of cash.
GOOGLE:  That doesn’t show on your latest tax returns unless you bought them using an undeclared income source, which is against the law!
CALLER:    WHAT THE !!!
GOOGLE:  I'm sorry sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.
CALLER:  Enough already!  I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others.  I'm going to an island without the internet, TV, where there is no phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me.
GOOGLE:  I understand sir, but you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago...

[Ken L]

1 hour ago, Huge_Vitae said:

A man calls Pizza hut to order a pizza...
CALLER:  Is this Pizza Hut?
GOOGLE:    No sir, it's Google Pizza.
CALLER:  I must have dialed a wrong number, sorry.
GOOGLE:  No sir, Google bought Pizza Hut last month.
CALLER:  OK. I would like to order a pizza.
GOOGLE:  Do you want your usual, sir?
CALLER:  My usual? You know me?
GOOGLE:  According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza with three cheeses, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms and meatballs on a thick crust.
CALLER:  Super! That’s what I’ll have.
GOOGLE:  May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and olives on a whole wheat gluten-free thin crust?
CALLER:  What? I don’t want a vegetarian pizza!
GOOGLE:  Your cholesterol is not good, sir.
CALLER:  How  do you know that?
GOOGLE:  Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records. We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
CALLER:  Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetarian pizza!  I already take medication for my cholesterol.
GOOGLE: Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly.  According to our database, you purchased only a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once at Lloyds Pharmacy, 4 months ago.
CALLER:  I bought more from another Pharmacy.
GOOGLE:  That doesn’t show on your credit card statement.
CALLER: I paid in cash.
GOOGLE:  But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.
CALLER:  I have other sources of cash.
GOOGLE:  That doesn’t show on your latest tax returns unless you bought them using an undeclared income source, which is against the law!
CALLER:    WHAT THE !!!
GOOGLE:  I'm sorry sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.
CALLER:  Enough already!  I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others.  I'm going to an island without the internet, TV, where there is no phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me.
GOOGLE:  I understand sir, but you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago...

I guess you're not much of a fan of Big Data either, Huge.

 

[chesters1]

I suspect in the terms and conditions if the meter cannot connect to the server it switches off " for safety" ofcourse .At the moment they are not mandatory ,to get around that your meters will be "end of life" and for "safety" reasons changed . your not going to avoid government agendas even if you never use gas again you will still be paying a standing charge unless you have your own meter installed and the potential supplier will again refuse to use it for "safety" reasons . The government want you to give up gas ,pain of cost and bureaucracy will ensure you do. THEN using electric will be used to punish you ! The masses will be huddling in their cold house in the light of a "special" bulb whilst the rich bask in floodlights with open widows instead of turning down the thermostat .

I am thinking about how the government will penalise you for having solar panels ,it will come in the form of a tax i am sure .Just look at london you can see the lights from space ,look at the sticks nothing you cant afford to live in the sticks AND own a lightbulb never mind turn it on Our nearest street lamp is a mile and a half away ! The richer will be smug with their shiny new air source heat pumps then the realisation will come they still use electric (i have no doubt the colder it is the tarrifs will rise) and the more you turn down the radiators to save money the more money they will use! As for EV Shell proudly announce they will have 11,000 fast charge points by 2030 and obviously the rest of the 500,000 are not so fast ,by 2030 you will need at least 33 million probably twice that if your charging at home and at work to get back home ,you can charge two cars at home but at half the speed of one ,as the saying goes :

Edited August 6, 2022 by chesters1