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All,

 

A request. RE: Brexit is a good thing. An example of EU as global governance that after 40+ years never did work.

 

My wife has been ask to prepare a paper on Global Governance vs Nation State. She is a PhD (Intelligence and Security analysis).

 

Her position hypothesis is global governance wrong and nation states are better (you get the drift)

 

She would like to use the "best" (well written) of the exit side of the topic. I told her I knew and visit daily with to world's most revered experts.

 

Seriously suggestions are welcome. I'll sort and print if you have url or book recommendations.

 

Ohh, perhaps the most difficult material is the mood and reasoning behind peasants opinion. Don't bother with the first line news - that's easy. It's the off the wall stuff that makes dry academic writing mildly palatable to read.

 

Thx in advance

 

Phone

Phone,

 

No research into global governance is complete, IMHO, without research into The Bilderberg Club and it's continued aim, which you correctly state is a failed concept the EU continue to chase, and the concept has been chased for an awful lot longer than 40 years, more like 80+ years.

 

Here is an article to start you off, yes it's in a newspaper, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/bilderberg-2014-george-osborne-john-kerr but as you can see it's in the guardian which supporters of the fourth Reich will tell you is gospel.

 

There is a whole warehouse full of writings out there including Wikipedia, but Clod et al might not like the plain and simple fact that Big Oil and those nasty bankers amongst the rich and powerful he loves to despise so much are the real power behind the EU.

 

For reference, the guy in the article lecturing the former Chancellor is an EMPLOYEE of the govt. and the man who claims to have written Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, which he didn't, and claims it can be reversed, which it can't.

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Huge_Vitae, on 23 Jan 2018 - 17:57, said:

Phone,

 

No research into global governance is complete, IMHO, without research into The Bilderberg Club and it's continued aim, which you correctly state is a failed concept the EU continue to chase, and the concept has been chased for an awful lot longer than 40 years, more like 80+ years.

 

Here is an article to start you off, yes it's in a newspaper, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/bilderberg-2014-george-osborne-john-kerr but as you can see it's in the guardian which supporters of the fourth Reich will tell you is gospel.

 

There is a whole warehouse full of writings out there including Wikipedia, but Clod et al might not like the plain and simple fact that Big Oil and those nasty bankers amongst the rich and powerful he loves to despise so much are the real power behind the EU.

 

For reference, the guy in the article lecturing the former Chancellor is an EMPLOYEE of the govt. and the man who claims to have written Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, which he didn't, and claims it can be reversed, which it can't.

 

 

I was o k with the link, ok as such, but when it came to the convicted criminal lagarde, well what can we say. Big business has no qualms in taking advice from anyone. Two guys where missing, the krays. :nerd:

 

I know, I know the're dead.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I was o k with the link, ok as such, but when it came to the convicted criminal lagarde, well what can we say. Big business has no qualms in taking advice from anyone. Two guys where missing, the krays. :nerd:

 

I know, I know the're dead.

It only gets better the more you read Barry, just like the other remoaners mouthpiece Westmacott, former Ambassador to the US. despite the fact that his Brother in Law sits in a Federal Pen. convicted of a $290 million fraud! But I suppose it was ok because he gave a few million to Bill Clinton's election fund, but money doesn't buy favour does it Clod? Once again the very thing you despise, or at least, should despise if you are half the person you claim to be, but no, they are all ok, the whole lot of corrupt, self serving, scum that they are because they keep telling you that leaving the EU is bad! But, as I keep saying, the people who have nothing to lose have nothing to worry about.

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Quick, Quick everybody , this is really very important, look at THIS link because I have no answer to what you are saying but I want to change the subject AGAIN because somebody has posted up something I have no answer to, and despite the fact that I posted recently that 'everybody' knows what actually 'will', 'might' or 'could' happen on brexit I have found a reference to somebody who voted remain who says that 'something' might happen that is bad but nobody actually knows is true or factual and continue to ignore the references posted in the same newspaper you quote in that link in the days before the referendum was even announced slagging off the big business the same institution you now support, Clod, you really should join your absent, lying, trolling friend smt and join Tunbridge Wells Angling Trust, I will gladly purchase you both a badge to proudly wear saying "T.W.A.T."

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Quick, Quick everybody , this is really very important, look at THIS link because I have no answer to what you are saying but I want to change the subject AGAIN because somebody has posted up something I have no answer to, and despite the fact that I posted recently that 'everybody' knows what actually 'will', 'might' or 'could' happen on brexit I have found a reference to somebody who voted remain who says that 'something' might happen that is bad but nobody actually knows is true or factual and continue to ignore the references posted in the same newspaper you quote in that link in the days before the referendum was even announced slagging off the big business the same institution you now support, Clod, you really should join your absent, lying, trolling friend smt and join Tunbridge Wells Angling Trust, I will gladly purchase you both a badge to proudly wear saying "T.W.A.T."

So you want anser to your link sorry here it is BULLSHIT so there you have it spuh any ideas to my link now what do you think maybe a tadge worrying to some maybe like I said before I cannot do with clever ***** .or sorry people who think they are clever ***** prick !!!!

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Quick, Quick everybody , this is really very important, look at THIS link because I have no answer to what you are saying but I want to change the subject AGAIN because somebody has posted up something I have no answer to, and despite the fact that I posted recently that 'everybody' knows what actually 'will', 'might' or 'could' happen on brexit I have found a reference to somebody who voted remain who says that 'something' might happen that is bad but nobody actually knows is true or factual and continue to ignore the references posted in the same newspaper you quote in that link in the days before the referendum was even announced slagging off the big business the same institution you now support, Clod, you really should join your absent, lying, trolling friend smt and join Tunbridge Wells Angling Trust, I will gladly purchase you both a badge to proudly wear saying "T.W.A.T."

Yes typical cod swerve ,not clever enough to counter anything so just posts random link which he hopes (probably doesnt understand it anyway) proves some opinion he may have.

I am not sure anyone can be so thick so i think hes a master at fishing ,its just a pity he posts nothing else but bile on a couple of subjects but cannot post anything else on any other

 

Not sure why he posts the thread was a poll on should we leave ,the AN members voted a majority to leave ,the country voted in majority to leave ,we should be leaving! end of .

Close the thread and start another one on why or not its a good idea .cod can post someone elses opinion ,we can have fun seeing him swerve when its proved wrong.

 

Heres a topic ,its wet and windy today ,will cod provide a link telling us its...

A underfunding sunshine by the tories

B brexit

C scallopers

D all of those

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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Yes typical cod swerve ,not clever enough to counter anything so just posts random link which he hopes (probably doesnt understand it anyway) proves some opinion he may have.

I am not sure anyone can be so thick so i think hes a master at fishing ,its just a pity he posts nothing else but bile on a couple of subjects but cannot post anything else on any other

 

Not sure why he posts the thread was a poll on should we leave ,the AN members voted a majority to leave ,the country voted in majority to leave ,we should be leaving! end of .

Close the thread and start another one on why or not its a good idea .cod can post someone elses opinion ,we can have fun seeing him swerve when its proved wrong.

 

Heres a topic ,its wet and windy today ,will cod provide a link telling us its...

A underfunding sunshine by the tories

B brexit

C scallopers

D all of those

I tell you what Chesters its a good job I have a good sense of humour so here we have a man who thinks the NHS is running smoothly not a problem everything fine thick oh thick doesnt come into Chesters blame the unions no blame Corbyn it cant be the tories fault can it no its they who have slashed funding the NHS in real terms more than ever before only a thick runt cant see that or are we just completely stupid which is it Chesters .

 

So as an anglers as we say in the trade all the gear and no idea you fit that category down to a t

 

You want insults you can have both Hooking barrels..

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

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Is it just me or does anyone else think this thread has run its course?

It has now descended into personal attacks and name calling with both sides blaming the other for doing exactly what they are doing themselves. "my link is better than your link"

OK, you are leaving. Whether that proves to be a good idea or not remains to be seen, but I am sure it is going to happen. Ignore the threats lies and promises made by both sides and just get on with it.

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Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

 

 

 

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