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Is that true? Why? Do they also ban crust and luncheon meat and insist everyone fishes a pop-up on a hair rig? 'Right. Reel em in...let's have a look' 'But I've just cast out' 'I don't care...reel em in now...aha! real sweetcorn straight on the hook! When will you people ever learn, eh? You're out mate. Come on, I'll give you five minutes to pack up then I set the dogs on you.'

If anyone wants to send a message of sympathy, this is one place you can do it: http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/in_memory.htm

I have checked your sire. Also your liege and your lordship. All upper class.

Of course there's loads of sites devoted to inventions...here's one for starters: http://www.ideafinder.com/history/of_inventions.htm As for the best invention, what about this: http://l2.espacenet.com/dips/viewer?PN=GB2301524 (it's worth reading the full description of this one: click DESC at the top) Of course it would be no use to anyone on this forum... Wonder why no-one's mentioned the fishhook or the rod?

Is that SEW you are thinking of..? SOW is what you do with your wild oats... If you want a double meaning for FOUND you can have 'to found a school' or whatever and 'found under a bush'. DO can be a verb and a get-together. All except the last 2 pairs have different pronunciations, so not sure where that leaves the last 2 pairs. As the phrase goes: 'Say it with words'

Maybe they just get someone in, get a month's work out of them, then at the end of that month say 'Oh you weren't very good so we're not going to pay you. Try harder next month.' Then when employee leaves they re-advertise same job and wait for the next mug... Wonder how much the person you spoke to is on? Could perhaps have said something like ' Well I'm sure you get paid f*** all in that case' just before you hung up.

I could be barred after this Didn't PETA get Mitsubishi to stop sponsoring angling events? Shouldn't we all, in the interests of the sport and unity and all that, be boycotting all Mitsubishi products? And now look what I found.... Right, I'm off...

Since I only just came across this, I thought there might be others who haven't seen it yet... http://www.countryside-alliance.org/news/0.../020617qaaw.pdf It sets out the CA's views on the matter, at least. Apologies to those who have seen it...if that turns out to be everyone..er just a general apology all round and I shall feel like I've told a very old joke...

Well...been out having a look...a few decent ones, a few more blink and you'll miss it ones, but the neck strain to sighting frequency ratio was too high so I'm off to bed now. Mostly nice clear sky though.

Hey Newt, we should send you over to PETA as angling's ambassador...I'm sure you could win them over with a few animal anecdotes

Don't like the sound of cock crabs! Is there a cure?

This is a conspiracy with the Tabloids, so they can use the headline Have you Met the new PC PC?

If you look at the 'family-tree' of country sports on the CA website, you'll notice that Fishing is in by far the most prominent place and hunting with hounds in the least prominent. Participation for the latter is given as about 300,000 (though presumably there will be quite a bit of overlap between the different sorts of hunting), while fishing participation is given as over 3 million (coarse fishing by far most popular obviously). On the other hand, I would be surprised to discover that membership of the CA reflects these figures (eg 11 to 1 angling/hunting; 8 to 1 coarse fishing/hunting; 20:1 fishing/foxhunting). Now...if I stick my cynical hat on I start to think, who exactly is 'helping' who here? Who stands to benefit most from lumping the two together? At the moment, if someone not knowing a chub from a ferret happened to look at the site they would come away with the impression that angling is the flagship and frontline of the CA. Is everyone happy with that? [ 11. August 2002, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: DMCA ]

My favorite has always been Marsh Gibbon. I'm going to be really disappointed if I discover it wasn't named after some bog-dwelling escaped primate. Also Ugley, Nasty and Daffy Green. I think there's a Crackpot somewhere too.

It occurred to me that if it comes to the worst and the council feel that keeping it on the go is too much trouble/expense, then it might be a good candidate for the Landmark Trust. They have what seems to be a good record of taking on these historic sites - in fact they specialise in it. A further result of this would be that people would actually be able to stay in the cottage (though not sure what would happen to the museum side of it). Anyway, just a contingency thought. It's also worth remembering that Izaac is not simply a famous fishing figure but also part of the country's general literary heritage. It's not just anglers who should be interested in keeping the place in action as it were. I have to admit I've never been though. [ 10. August 2002, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: DMCA ]

quote: Originally posted by chevin: I remember one day that friends of mine and I went to The Great Ouse relief Channel.... the guy in the next swim to me caught a thirty-one and a quarter pounder. . [/QB] Just wondered...was the day in question in 1969? (I know the question is irrelevant to the matter in hand, but didn't know where else to ask it) [ 09. August 2002, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: DMCA ]

I agree with what Cranfield has said, in that I have experienced time and time again that non-anglers (who are after all in the great majority throughout the country) seem untroubled (often curious, sometimes just disinterested) when they hear you are an angler, until the mention of livebait, when usually they first react as if they must have misheard you, then when they realise they haven't, they tend to start looking a bit funny at you as if you have just said that you thought slavery was actually quite a good idea. Of course the fact that some people who don't really know anything about it might not like the idea much is no reason to stop doing something, but at the same time we should be careful about taking some high moral stance in public, especially in very general and emotive terms, for danger of shooting ourselves in the foot. The quotation from Martin Salter could easily be replied to along these lines: "I know of no fisherman that having caught a prized speciman fish would then tear it to pieces, even though that fish may have been caught by taking a non-prized, non-specimen fish, sticking a hook or two in it, tossing it out, and leaving it tethered for several hours before being fatally injured in the jaws of the intended quarry" (or something like that) similarly "we do not see fish as pests, er..except zander and in some cases pike, and of course other animals such as cormorants and even maybe tufted ducks if they interfere with our sport" I suppose what we would like is to be able to characterise all fox hunters as at best obnoxious, at worst slavering, bloodthirsty sadists revelling in the suffering of the fox, while anglers are all staunch environmentalists who wish no harm to the fish and in fact go out of their way to ensure that its welfare comes first, even at the expense of not catching as much. But try answering without getting in a tangle when some non-angler asks you what that big soft mat is for and er...why are you keeping those little fish in a bucket? Are hunters really all nasty and evil? Seems unlikely, but I don't know. I've never met any. Personally, I don't much like the sound of fox hunting, though I know nothing about it in practice, and I don't see what it has to do with fishing (except that it's done outdoors and animals are involved). As far as I'm concerned golf is closer to fishing: at least you can do that on your own. So I'm with Peter when I see no reason to link fishing wiht hunting. My concern though is that in disassociating ourselves we don't set anglers up as some sort of whiter than white straw man. Angling, or at least elements of it, can be portrayed as cruel. If we believe angling is really under threat then we can't just pretend that's not the case and hope no-one notices. Time to shut-up now.

As above...I'm not a carp fisherman (or at least not much of one) but I seem vaguely to remember that one of the reasons (maybe the main one) for pop-ups when they started being used was that they could be balanced by means of using just the right amount of weight to sink them very very slowly. Then, when the carp came along taking baits it would naturally give each one a certain amount of suck - enough to lift it off the bottom adn into its mouth. When it sucked like this at a balanced pop up the bait, neutrally buoyant or thereabouts, would whizz up into the back of its mouth, both ensuring the hook was well inside the mouth and presumably spooking the carp and casuing it to run (both leading to the better hooking rate) This is all more or less what Gaffer said, just with the addtion of the bait being 'balanced'. Have I got this right or am I talking arse again? Do people still use balanced pop-ups or are they just for some specialised situaions?

The only good side to the miserable fishing experience you must have had in the company of foghorn and his mate, as far as I can see, is that at least he thought a 15 pound carp was actually worth crowing about and keeping in his net and getting his dad out to photograph, rather than just booting it back in because it wasn't 5 pounds bigger.

It's the little guy in the bottom left that bothers me...he must be up to something I should send you a picture of some of the people at the cambridge computer lab and see if you can spot the difference...

quote:As for rules , nobody objects to a sensible set of rules , but some fisheries take it to a ridiculous extreme Just got back from a morning on Sywell Reservoir which I haven't been to for many years. They have a list of rules posted at the entrance and the first one is this: No baits or bait boats allowed. The second bit I can cope with...

Talking of getting dragged along by fish...when marlin fishing I had a harness attached to me and the rod was attached to the harness: as a result I was attached to a fish nearly three times as big as me and going as fast as a car...what happens if the reel jams? Have you heard of this happening to anyone? I'm not much of a swimmer at the best of times...

After a somewhat humiliating experience when I first went fishing abroad and was handed a 6 foot rod with a rh wind baitcaster, loaded with braid, and a 3 inch lure, which I then sent straight at my feet, straight up in the air or nowhere at all, except for the odd time that I did get one further than a few feet from the boat when I also got a lovely ball of knitting... as i say, after this and after watching the guide at work with the same equipment and seeing how he could cast into any tiny gap in the weeds, trees, etc. at will I decided that I had to learn how to do it so went and bought myself some appropriate kit and set to work practicing (actually in a swimming pool at first!) It took a while and I'm not suggesting I'm an expert by any means, but I never looked back...my lure fishing catches increased dramatically as did my general ability and my enjoyment of the whole business ..if you like lure fishing, or would like to like lure fishing more, I can't recommend it enough.. mt set up is not at all fancy tho: 5 foot 6 rod and the reel I use is a shimano bass one loaded with (at the moment) some rather old fireline: the whole lot not much more than equiv of 100 quid (rh wind tho which does take some getting used to not just in the retrieving but also when netting a fish).. [ 18 July 2002, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: DMCA ]

This is not Exmouth in Devon I take it! (NW Oz?)