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The broads are in one of the driest parts of the country. The only reason they don't turn into wadi's every summer is the fact that its tidal I think.

Didn't take into account the carpist explosion tbh. I agree it ups the risk considerably. I sometimes think fisheries should be properly governed, but how to do it fairly and consistently? I actually did a sneaky water test on a fishery near me while taking a wander round, nitrate levels were off the scale and nitrite was quite evident with even trace amounts of ammonia present. It was no more than 100 feet square and had over 20 pegs. I think the best tactic there was a size 2/0, dragged through the water. Saw 2 foul hooked Carp in the 10 minutes I was there!

 

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This Years' Targets:- As many species by lure as possible. Preferably via Kayak. 15lb+ Pike on Lure...

Species Caught 2012- Pike, Perch.

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Kayak Captures- 14 Pike, 1 Perch.

 

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the only 'good un'......

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the only 'good un'......

 

Like the trophy shot with rod and reel in frame :lol:

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Species Caught 2014

Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

Species Caught 2013

Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

Species Caught 2012
Zander, Pike, Perch, Chub, Ruff, Gudgeon, Dace, Minnow, Wels Catfish, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Roach, Bream, Eel, Rudd, Tench, Arapaima, Mekong Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Marbled Tiger Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Thai Redtail Catfish, Batrachian Walking Catfish, Siamese Carp, Rohu, Julliens Golden Prize Carp, Giant Gourami, Java Barb, Red Tailed Tin Foil Barb, Nile Tilapia, Black Pacu, Red Bellied Pacu, Alligator Gar
Species Caught 2011
Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
Species Caught 2010
Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
Species Caught 2009
Barramundi, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Wallago Leeri Catfish, Wallago Attu Catfish, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Mrigul, Siamese Carp, Java Barb, Tarpon, Wahoo, Barracuda, Skipjack Tuna, Bonito, Yellow Eye Rockfish, Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper, Black Fin Snapper, Dog Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Marble Grouper, Black Fin Tuna, Spanish Mackerel, Mutton Snapper, Redhind Grouper, Saddle Grouper, Schoolmaster, Coral Trout, Bar Jack, Pike, Zander, Perch, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Common Carp, Golden Tench, Wels Catfish
Species Caught 2008
Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
Species Caught 2007
Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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The broads are in one of the driest parts of the country. The only reason they don't turn into wadi's every summer is the fact that its tidal I think.

Didn't take into account the carpist explosion tbh. I agree it ups the risk considerably. I sometimes think fisheries should be properly governed, but how to do it fairly and consistently? I actually did a sneaky water test on a fishery near me while taking a wander round, nitrate levels were off the scale and nitrite was quite evident with even trace amounts of ammonia present. It was no more than 100 feet square and had over 20 pegs. I think the best tactic there was a size 2/0, dragged through the water. Saw 2 foul hooked Carp in the 10 minutes I was there!

 

Renrag

 

Since the topics got round to the carp explosion (I'll provide the TNT :rolleyes: ), this little ditty sums up my feelings over the last 20yrs. :thumbs::D

 

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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Heavy stocking of cyprinid fish has several effects - large mud grubbing species, particularly carp but also tench and bream stir up sediment. This makes the water muddy, preventing light getting to plants growing on the bottom and killing them. It also exposes the sediments to oxygen, which tends to release phosphate bound to the sediments into the water column. They also physically destroy some plant matter. High density stocking of small cyprinids results in high predation on the small zooplankton which feed on suspended algae. The net result is that grazing on algae is reduced, phosphate fertilisation is increased and competition from plants is eliminated. You get a turbid ecosystem, dominated by algae, the classic commercial mud puddle.

 

You could create the same sort of problems by massively overstocking with other species, but carp are particularly open to abuse because they will tolerate horrible conditions, and particularly problematic because they are such grubbers of the bottom. Once you've tipped the balance towards domination by algae, the pond may stay that way, even if you quit tipping lorryloads of carp in it. I remember a pond where the committee (all matchmen) killed off the emergent plants with aquatic herbicide. A pond which had been absolutely crystal clear turned into a mud puddle and the plants never came back because there was no sunlight to the bottom any more. The remedial action required to fix that situation is to remove most of the grazing fish and/or add more predators.

 

The problem we have in the UK is less the existence of carp, like in those countries where they successfully breed like rabbits, and more the way commercial fisheries are managed.

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the only 'good un'......

 

I prefer mine a bit fresher than that B)

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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That's probably a delicacy somewhere in Scandinavia, you philistine! :D

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Hang on a minute, what a great idea Steve....let's send all of our crap to Scandinavia to be soused, salted, smorgasborded (?) or whatever.

 

I'll start a business catching them....anyone want to come in on it, John, Anderoo, Steve? B)

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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Oops!

 

 

Hang on a minute, what a great idea Steve....let's send all of our crap to Scandinavia to be soused, salted, smorgasborded (?) or whatever.

 

I'll start a business catching them....anyone want to come in on it, John, Anderoo, Steve? B)

 

There's only one man for the job - Tinca Tinca ;)

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Oops!

 

 

Hang on a minute, what a great idea Steve....let's send all of our crap to Scandinavia to be soused, salted, smorgasborded (?) or whatever.

 

I'll start a business catching them....anyone want to come in on it, John, Anderoo, Steve? B)

 

 

I'm in Nick, I'll just need to get a few more buckets.

 

John.

Angling is more than just catching fish, if it wasn't it would just be called 'catching'......... John

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