North Western Multi Range 2.25lb T/C Blank

[Anderoo]

Have a look at the Daiwa Twilight 2.25 lb Barbel rods Rob - might suit what you are after. They do them in 2 and 4 piece options. Great slim blank and very well finished. Billy Clarke's had them on offer last time I looked.

 

I happen to really like barbel rods for their fish-playing qualities, but on the big, windy pits I don't think they're very good - where accurate casting is needed, they are often lacking. Not the right action to punch through the wind.

[Tigger]

I happen to really like barbel rods for their fish-playing qualities, but on the big, windy pits I don't think they're very good - where accurate casting is needed, they are often lacking. Not the right action to punch through the wind.

 

 

I have a pair of the drennan specialist barbel rods and they seem identical to the tench and bream rods.

[Anderoo]

I have a pair of the drennan specialist barbel rods and they seem identical to the tench and bream rods.

 

That's surprising. Are you sure?

[Tigger]

That's surprising. Are you sure?

 

 

As far as I can see the barbel rod has a white sight tip, less guides spaced differently and possibly larger also...and that's it really. The handle/ cork is slightly different also. I think manufacturers often use the same blank for several different fishing styles but just add different fittings and decals labelling it for a certain type of fish or specific job. Funny how the barbel and the tench and bream rods both have a semi through action at 1.75 and 2lbtest. Obviously I may well be wrong but I don't think so, my bet is they're the exact same blanks just fitted out differently.

At the end of the day I don't suppose it matters really so long as they do what you want them to .

[Phone]

Tigger,

 

NO?? """"labelling it [the same rod] for a certain type of fish or specific job""""

 

They wouldn't do that - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - would they??

 

Phpne

[lutra]

Ive never tried the North Western rods you mention Rob, but i have done a lot method fishing on big waters for coarse fish other than carp (bream). My advice would be to get the carp rods out. With 2.5 or even 2.75tc's you know you will get that feeder out, even if the wind gets up. If your using a stretchy mono main line over that sharp gravel, at long range i doubt the extra tc will make much difference.

 

Good carp rods with a tc of 2.5 are not hard to find for little money.

[Rob Ward]

Ive never tried the North Western rods you mention Rob, but i have done a lot method fishing on big waters for coarse fish other than carp (bream). My advice would be to get the carp rods out. With 2.5 or even 2.75tc's you know you will get that feeder out, even if the wind gets up. If your using a stretchy mono main line over that sharp gravel, at long range i doubt the extra tc will make much difference.

 

Good carp rods with a tc of 2.5 are not hard to find for little money.

 

Too heavy a rod would take a lot of the pleasure out of Tench fishing for me and I've already got 2.75lb Carp rods.

 

2.25lb is as heavy as I want to go really, Tench still put a bend in one of those.

[lutra]

Too heavy a rod would take a lot of the pleasure out of Tench fishing for me and I've already got 2.75lb Carp rods.

 

2.25lb is as heavy as I want to go really, Tench still put a bend in one of those.

 

Yep i can appreciate tench fishing may be more about the fight than bream fishing.

[Phone]

Rob,

 

Can't help myself.

 

First, since you are "hung up on TC I want to be sure I am right in what you're talking about.

Essentially, rod's measured test curve is a figure given to the amount of weight that, when applied to a rod will cause that rod to bend into a 90 degree curve.

 

I checked about 25 – 30 different Euro rods, some 'all-through' (parabolic) some “progressive” using the first one third to achieve the TC. Actually once you come over into the “progressive” rods, Euro or American seems to me “tc” really becomes “tip curve” doesn’t it?

 

Can you describe how much “power” you want from the mid-point or last 2/3's to the handle? Many more expensive "slow tip" rods today can be looped in the first 1/3rd and can pull a pickup truck.

 

I don’t believe Euro rods serve the purpose you have described very well. Especially if you insist on a parabolic action. I believe Allstar (maybe All Star) make some rods that are really slow tips (.5 - 1.5 TC) but are extremely beefy beginning 1/3rd down.

 

I use UglyStik Tiger rods for this purpose. They have, by your definition, a “less than two” tc but easily handle and control 30 lb carp.

 

By talking about "TC" in less than half a pound increments you make no sense (not trying to be rude). When in fact, TC isn't what you are looking for at all. You want to pull a fish through the weeds and still have a slow tip - is that right??

 

Phone

 

BTW of the 25 or so Euro rods from 9 to 13 ft actually tested only a couple came even close to the stamped TC. I understand TC for parabolic rods - not elsewhere.

[Rob Ward]

Rob,

 

Can't help myself.

 

First, since you are "hung up on TC I want to be sure I am right in what you're talking about.

Essentially, rod's measured test curve is a figure given to the amount of weight that, when applied to a rod will cause that rod to bend into a 90 degree curve.

 

I checked about 25 – 30 different Euro rods, some 'all-through' (parabolic) some “progressive” using the first one third to achieve the TC. Actually once you come over into the “progressive” rods, Euro or American seems to me “tc” really becomes “tip curve” doesn’t it?

 

Can you describe how much “power” you want from the mid-point or last 2/3's to the handle? Many more expensive "slow tip" rods today can be looped in the first 1/3rd and can pull a pickup truck.

 

I don’t believe Euro rods serve the purpose you have described very well. Especially if you insist on a parabolic action. I believe Allstar (maybe All Star) make some rods that are really slow tips (.5 - 1.5 TC) but are extremely beefy beginning 1/3rd down.

 

I use UglyStik Tiger rods for this purpose. They have, by your definition, a “less than two” tc but easily handle and control 30 lb carp.

 

By talking about "TC" in less than half a pound increments you make no sense (not trying to be rude). When in fact, TC isn't what you are looking for at all. You want to pull a fish through the weeds and still have a slow tip - is that right??

 

Phone

 

BTW of the 25 or so Euro rods from 9 to 13 ft actually tested only a couple came even close to the stamped TC. I understand TC for parabolic rods - not elsewhere.

 

No you've missed the point slightly. I'm not concerned about weed at this point, there is a theory that the pit is likely to weed up significantly but I'm not yet sure how much impact that will have on my fishing as I'll be finished early summer.

 

What I want is a rod that will comfortably cast a loaded method feeder at medium distance i.e. 35 to 70 yards, the feeders I use weigh between 1.5 and 2oz's but up to three times more when loaded with feed. Therefore I need a Progressive action with power in the middle section but a soft tip that won't break up the method ball.

 

That's not to say I'm hung up over fishing at distance it's just that some swims on this pit can demand it due to the topography of the bottom of the Lake.

 

What I don't want is a rod that's too powerful for my target species, Tench. I've used rods on this pit between 1.25 and 2.25lb test curve over the years and 2.25 is as high as I want to go, anything heavier would take the pleasure out of it for me.

 

Like some have already mentioned rods that are marketed in the UK as Barbel rods can have the right action but that's not to say all of them do. The problem with some of these is some of them are rung for fishing at short range on Rivers i.e. lots of small rings which I've found can be a slight disadvantage when fishing at distance on pits. I've got just such a pair which have the perfect action for punching the feeders out but I don't want to get them re-rung because I also use them for Barbel fishing and they're perfect for that.

 

The specific blank I've asked about could be just what I'm looking for if the action is right!