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Hi all just out of curiosity really as i am wanting to save some money for later in the year when my second kid is born and as a stand in rod can i use a carp rod for dead baiting on the canal/river for pike ?

 

and the fact that i am wanting to save money is that i have too many rods as it is and if the misses sees me buy a new rod i think she will be a tad upset as over the xmas period nearly £300 has been spent on new lures and shads along with other gear.

 

any help would be great thanks

 

Adam

 

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over the xmas period nearly £300 has been spent on new lures and shads

 

Ha ha, brilliant, you have all those lures and shads, and then go straight to dead bait :D made me chuckle! sounds like the kind of thing I'd do....

 

Cheers,

 

Stu...

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Ha ha, brilliant, you have all those lures and shads, and then go straight to dead bait :D made me chuckle! sounds like the kind of thing I'd do....

 

Cheers,

 

Stu...

 

That was my thoughts also :D They can be used very well for smaller fish baits but are total pants for lure work.

Stephen

 

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Be very careful, and as been suggested use smaller fish baits. I'm no engineer but know that the blanks of carp rods are different to pike/deadbait rods. The test curve might be the same but that doesn't mean both will behave the same way under stress. Carp rods may be designed for bringing big weights (the fish) in, but are not designed for casting big weights (the deadbaits) out.

 

Using small deads at close to medium range and you may gat away for your canal and river fishing (are they small?) with it. My son broke a pair of good quaility carp rods, mistakenly believing that because they were 2 3/4lbs test curve they would double up as pike rods...they won't.

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As stated, action is more important than test curve. I have a pair of the old Daiwa Powermesh carp rods, 11ft and 2.25lb tc. Although the tc is not particularly high, they are nice and soft and bendy and can lob a deadbait out very well. A more sharper actioned casting rod is more likely to either break under the strain or rip the hooks out of the bait.

 

However, as long as you're not trying to reach the hoizon, I'm sure the carp rods will be fine.

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or rip the hooks out of the bait.

 

That is the main problem I found when using my carp rods as dead bait rods. I have since upgraded to having a specific dead bait rod as it is far less frustrating.

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Of course you cant Adam! How dare you sugest using tools designed for the God of Fishes to fish for vermin like pike! What sort of noddy are you anyway that you would want to waste time fishing for pike rather than carp? In fact is "fishing" for anything else but carp actually fishing?.................

 

But of course if you are not that worried about fashion,would actually like to catch something a bit different,have a brain,can stay awake whilst fishing and be prepared to use a bait other than boillies then as others have said YES if you go carefull and the rods action isnt to fast (which no matter what the test curve is on most modern "carp rods"wont be unless youve paid a lot of dough) you will be fine.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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I use a 2.5 test carp rod when deadbaiting.

I mainly use small baits and do'nt fish at any great range and seems to work fine.

You wont want to punch baits out but use more of a lob.

I have occasionaly lobbed out a whole herring, probably around the 1lb mark but you have to be very carefull.

So if you use smallish baits ie half sardine or sprats at modest range no problem.

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