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Any proof that this is actually been carried out or is it hearsay. What about the total bass landings, anyone got any figures. Any evidence regarding black selling, back door? What is backing up the claims.

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Its very transparent, they will have to come up with something better than that if they want to influence DEFRA. Like Steve says there appears to be little apparent evidence of thier claims. Even if bass stocks were declining ( I can find no hard evidence on paper) the countries fascination with bass fishing appears to continue to grow daily. Where are these job losses ?

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barry luxton Member

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Nothing Barry. In fact, the press release contradicts itself several times.

 

Indeed, unless there is some hard and fast facts to back up all the claims we have been reading lately from the likes of bass, no disrespects. It can only be classed as hearsay in my mind. Sorry.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Any proof that this is actually been carried out or is it hearsay. What about the total bass landings, anyone got any figures. Any evidence regarding black selling, back door? What is backing up the claims.

 

Hello Barry

 

With statements like "nor the amount of netting that is being deployed (which can be up to 20 miles of net from one small vessel),

It's mostly rubbish and proof of anglers misconceptions of commercial fishing.

 

In this area I don't know of any mad rush to change to bass fishing, despite one boat having some very good (for a small boat) catches of small bass. Fact is most modern under ten trawlers in the area are not suited to work gill nets in very shallow water were the bass congregate.

It does seem that the good year class of 2002 are making an appearance into the fishery in this area so bass catches this year are likely to be higher than recent years especially for those using 90 ml nets but I suspect the prices will be very poor.

I fish to live and live to fish.

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Hello Barry

 

With statements like "nor the amount of netting that is being deployed (which can be up to 20 miles of net from one small vessel),

It's mostly rubbish and proof of anglers misconceptions of commercial fishing.

 

In this area I don't know of any mad rush to change to bass fishing, despite one boat having some very good (for a small boat) catches of small bass. Fact is most modern under ten trawlers in the area are not suited to work gill nets in very shallow water were the bass congregate.

It does seem that the good year class of 2002 are making an appearance into the fishery in this area so bass catches this year are likely to be higher than recent years especially for those using 90 ml nets but I suspect the prices will be very poor.

 

Hi Wurzel, it's not about misconceptions, it's about believing what is read or not. I agree with you that twenty mile of net is rather a lot for a small boat to carry. However for a few weeks now we have been drip fed that the bass stock is in trouble. I can't agree with that until there is concrete proof, not just say so. If as you say the figures are going to be higher due to a good year class, even that can't be used for proof that the stock is in trouble. Lower prices, is that because of a glut of fish on the market. Don't make sence as the cost of everything is going up except fish.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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looks like more garbage from the "fish fanciers assn"

i too would like to know where these "thousands of jobs" have been lost.

they are just making themselves look foolish,they will eventually lose what crediblity they might have had.

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they are just making themselves look foolish,they will eventually lose what crediblity they might have had.

 

Any credibility they may once have had is gone already as far as I'm concerned. Sensationalist and factually incorrect statements based on assumption and spin, like the one released today, have made sure of that.

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Hi All

 

20 miles of net

 

One net bin is about 5 foot long x 2.5 feet wide and 2.5 feet high it may hold 200 fathoms of net, tops, no more than that

 

20,000 fathoms = 20miles therefore it would take aleast 100 net bins to take the 20 miles of net

 

My boat which is a cat is 32 feet long x 16 foot wide and has a very large deck space, allowing for the wheelhouse and everything I would be lucky to get 20-25 net bins on my boat let alone a 100. 1 net bin full up with net would weight about 40 kilo x 100 = 4 tonne

 

The anchors to moor up a 100 nets would weigh at least 1.5 tonnes

 

The ropes from the anchors to the markers bouys and the markers bouys would weigh alot plus they would take up a large area of deck space

 

They must be talking about very large vessels

 

The price for bass will only go down if the quaility is poor

 

steve

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