a ban on holidays?

[Now there's a right un.]

Sorry mate but you are back to posting hogwash again. My own father and his before him were both farm workers. Farm workers get there holidays when they are told they can have them, they can't just book a fortnights holiday whenever you like, and you are extremely unlikely to be given holidays during either the Easter Holidays (that would be lambing season) or the Summer Holidays (far to close to harvest). I used to have my summer holidays at one of my aunt's, but my parents would not have been there. The family holidays we did have were spent in Hame'l'daeme, with perhaps the odd day trip to Largs or a sail "Doon the Water" on a paddle steamer, namely the Waverley.

 

 

 

 

Okay, Cory I concede to your point as it is sound. My hogwash was well and truly undermined....

 

I will change my statement to Most Professions.

 

 

@ Chesters---my 13 year old wants to be an architect. Hardly a useless profession.

However, I do agree there are many people out there with useless qualifications that in all events will never be used.

[barry luxton]

Barry, your a Tory, you should know what an inset day is. It was cooked up by a one Mr Kenneth Baker along with someone called Mrs Thatcher. Remember them? This was in 1988 when they were setting up the National Curriculum. Teachers are REQUIRED BY STATUTE to have 5 Baker Days (as they are formally known) each year.

 

Huh, am i? Can't stand the wet who we have at present, he's more of a drip. And that ain't my quote. Gotcha.

[corydoras]

Huh, am i? Can't stand the wet who we have at present, he's more of a drip. And that ain't my quote. Gotcha.

That doesn't get you off the hook on not knowing who dreamt up inset days. It's not just old Tories like yourself that have short political memories. One of my (Old) Labour type chums was waffling the other day about how important "Care in the Community" is. When I asked him if he was such a ready supporter of the concept when it was dreamt up by Maggie and introduced by a Tory government he went all quiet.

[corydoras]

So what happens if your in employment as a nurse or in the hospitality/retail industry or driving the buses, there will be many more i'm sure.

 

They all don't get normal holidays so are they expected to miss out on having a holiday with their kids.

 

Cheers Fred

So what if you are a school teacher who can't afford a full price family holiday in the peak period, what are they supposed to do? Throw a two week sicky as soon as they get back to work and break the law to boot by keeping their kids off school? Your special pleading don't cut no ice with me. Edited February 20, 2012 by corydoras

[Phone]

Now,

 

In my estimation it would be a crying shame if a lad or lass did not take an unauthorized holliday if they - - - - - - """my 13 year old wants to be an architect."""

 

Mundane academics may suffer but It's my experience wants and desires in the arts is either reinforced or forgotten during such encounters. What you are looking for is motivation. Genius is rarely accompanied by "well rounded".

 

Phone

[Clifftop]

When you have children your own needs become secondary.

 

In any Industry you can choose your Holiday to coincide with school holidays. Not many have fixed holidays.

You get 28 days + Bank Holidays.

 

If a parent wants to pull children out of school to go on holiday I say their choice but personally I feel that a parents job is to do the best possible for their child[ren] and a holiday in school time is not necessary.

 

My priority is to make sure my children achieve the very best they can from school to help them be the very best they can be as adults. TBH I wish my parents had done this for me but they were the opposite.

When you have children your own needs become secondary.Sorry but i've got to disagree with this.

 

My opinion is that you have to bring your kids up to be aware of what the real world is like and yes a good education is whats needed but so is learning that

there are times when the rules need to be altered to suit the circumstances.

 

Things must have changed in the UK since i lived there, for holiday we got the last week in July first week August and two weeks at Christmas.

 

TBH I wish my parents had done this for me but they were the opposite.

 

Opposite they might have been but judging by the tone and content of your posts they did something right.

 

Cheers Fred

[Clifftop]

So what if you are a school teacher who can't afford a full price family holiday in the peak period, what are they supposed to do? Throw a two week sicky as soon as they get back to work and break the law to boot by keeping their kids off school? Your special pleading don't cut no ice with me.

The teachers go on stress leave and have their holidays. dont they. That way they still get paid

[chesters1]

Okay, Cory I concede to your point as it is sound. My hogwash was well and truly undermined....

 

I will change my statement to Most Professions.

 

 

@ Chesters---my 13 year old wants to be an architect. Hardly a useless profession.

However, I do agree there are many people out there with useless qualifications that in all events will never be used.

 

even i was surprised as there over 3000 different GCSE "subjects" even more surprising any still exist as most employers only recognise NVQ? including councils according to a snippet i heard on TV yesterday ,i think my hard fought for C&G's are long forgotten today

any employer worth his salt will grab a school leaver and train them to do the job and never reward them with any qualifications they can use outside of where they work ,they then have a highly trained worker without any means of leaving or the means to threaten employers for higher wages or they leave and go elsewhere

 

unfortunately Architechs has one problem if there's nothing to design then there's no need for architects ,best to have more than one string in your bow in uncertain times

 

the trouble is when the gov sees a preference for NVQ's they will be given away and devalued like all the rest

 

teaching (although i couldnt do it without physical violence to the first lippy student) cannot be that bad my near neighbour was a deputy headmaster now long retired who can heat his shed continually using 2.5 kw ,have 3 500watt lights running continually in his garden and change both his cars every year

Edited February 21, 2012 by chesters1

[corydoras]

The teachers go on stress leave and have their holidays. dont they. That way they still get paid

It's attitudes like that towards teachers that keeps me from being a teacher.

[corydoras]

i think my hard fought for C&G's are long forgotten today

Not at all chesters.

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