Killing fish

[Worms]

Do fish feel pain? I really don't know, it depends on which study or report you read.

I think that they can potentially feel pain but I can't prove it, one way or the other.

Will the knowledge that they might feel pain stop me fishing? No, I'm selfish and I enjoy fishing.

 

Now I know that chickens feel pain but I will still eat them, I enjoy eating chicken.

This goes for all of the other animals I eat (and sometimes kill)

This includes seafish that have not been killed humanely although I would rather eat fish that I have caught and killed myself.

 

Can I also just say that this thread started, not with the question "should we kill fish" but with the question "should you decide to kill fish do you carry a priest to do it effectively?"

 

Personally I hate to watch anglers trying to kill a fish by kicking it around the bank or tapping it repeatedly on the head with a pair of forceps but that's just me.

I also hate to see fish (often seafish such as mackerel) flapping and gasping in a pile behind the angler (or in the bait box come to that) but that's just me again.

So I carry a priest. It makes ME feel better.

I don't carry Clinik , savlon or Bonjela to put on the fishes lips.

 

I wholeheartedly agree/concur with all of the above.

[Emma two]

So do any of the people who advocate a quick death for fish believe they are able to feel pain?

 

If not, why bother with a quick death?

 

If so, what the hell are you doing to them in the first place?

 

 

I think that they may feel pain, I would caution againt attributing fishy feeling of pain and fear being like human ones. They appear to not enjoy being caught, the try to swim away, and even jump clear of the water shaking their heads (well some species do). That I can live with, they are fish I am human, so that the order of things. They may feel pain and fear (the latter hasn't been talked about yet). I have enough doubts to think that I should kill any that are to be killed quickly, that where the sharp blow on the head from a priest comes in.

 

I have hunted and shot a lot of other creatures too,significantly warm blooded mammals and birds. I'm quite sure that rabbits feel pain and or fear by the amount or wriggling and screaming they do when clamped in a dogs jaws, and a mortally wounded hare sounds to some like a human baby crying. I still continued to work my dogs and shoot, and would do now were I fit enough.

 

What 'the hell' I am doing is what people have done well...since they have been around, that is enjoying hunting (inc fishing) to such an extent that I will continue to do it regardless. No excuses, but I won't protract a death longer than need be. Anglers need priests (not thr religious kind) All those 'Heath Robinson' methods, rocks, bank sticks, or any othe random blunt objects found lying around (if your lucky) are seldom subtle or effective.

 

I did go fishin' Eldest grandson who is 10 tomorrow on a real 'high' when I dropped him off, He wanted to catch eels, so I took him, he got 5 the largest over 4lbs and a bonus bream of 6 and a half just before it became fully dark. None of these fish were badly hooked, indeed part of the session was to demonstrate how to use both the standard disgorger and forceps, we didn't have to shove casualties back into the depths to die out of sight.

[Phone]

All,

 

Fish don't feel pain. (or pleasure)

 

That is to say pain is troublesome to define.

 

Pain is the most prominent member of a class of sensations known as bodily sensations, which includes itches, tickles, tingles, orgasms, etc.

 

Unless you think fish "get off" you wouldn't think they feel pain. Fish do have an instinct to survive but it is not "painful" - it just is.

 

Phone

[Sportsman]

All,

 

Fish don't feel pain. (or pleasure)

 

That is to say pain is troublesome to define.

 

Pain is the most prominent member of a class of sensations known as bodily sensations, which includes itches, tickles, tingles, orgasms, etc.

 

Unless you think fish "get off" you wouldn't think they feel pain. Fish do have an instinct to survive but it is not "painful" - it just is.

 

Phone

 

Do you mean

"fish don't feel pain"

or

"I don't think fish feel pain"

[barry luxton]

Anglers need priests (not thr religious kind) All those 'Heath Robinson' methods, rocks, bank sticks, or any othe random blunt objects found lying around (if your lucky) are seldom subtle or effective.

 

 

Knife is quicker, targetted, straight into the brain and it's second use is to clean the fish of the red stuff.

 

Own up how many of you have wolloped a fish with a priest, then give it another and another and another just to make sure it's dead and to make sure that you got it in the right place the first time, or did you hit it hard enough, the first, second or third?

[Andrew]

Knife is quicker, targetted, straight into the brain and it's second use is to clean the fish of the red stuff.

 

Own up how many of you have wolloped a fish with a priest, then give it another and another and another just to make sure it's dead and to make sure that you got it in the right place the first time, or did you hit it hard enough, the first, second or third?

 

 

I witnessed one lad whack a cod over the head at least 4 times , the fish was still twitching before the last whallop.

[Nicepix]

I witnessed one lad whack a cod over the head at least 4 times , the fish was still twitching before the last whallop.

 

All animals will twitch well after death. Even humans.

[Nicepix]

Do you mean

"fish don't feel pain"

or

"I don't think fish feel pain"

 

I think that's another one of Phone's gems. Like the 'carp aren't line shy' evidence he posted.

[barry luxton]

All animals will twitch well after death. Even humans.

 

Dogfish certainly do along with eels.

[Andrew]

All animals will twitch well after death. Even humans.

 

 

Thanks for that.